I feel a bit sorry for Lachie, at the end of the day he isn't a true KPP but we expected him to be one.

Another example of poor administration by the club.
If a nobody like me hears that Silvagni wants to get rid of Henderson, Yarran and Menzel early in the season, what chance is there that the players won't hear it.
Posters can kick Henderson as much as they want but I'm sure if their employer let it be known he will be using them in the short term and then looking to piss them off because he doesn't rate them, what would their response be?
Stupidity by the club. All three players have played average football. Why would they commit 100% physically and mentally when they are only helping the same people who don't want them.
Instead of getting trade value, we have 3 players giving much less than their best because they are disillusioned with the club.

All for what? So SOS can save the club?
We talk about moving away from a messiah mentality, what do we have with Silvagni? A list manager currently calling the shots with no recruiting manager in place.
One bloke will be making the decisions when at worst it should be shared responsibility.
Yes SOS had some successes at GWS but he's also shown his fallibility with early picks. O'Rourke at pick 2 and his disdain at the selection of Cripps are 2 that come to mind immediately.

The club is making positive steps forward but we still have the unenviable ability of shooting ourselves in the foot with the simplest of tasks.

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I know this was stated on here for a while, but if it was actually the case that SOS wanted to use these guys as trade bait, I find it hard to believe that the 200+ journos who cover AFL didn't pick it also.

Ralph had no problem reporting that SOS thought BB was a wasted pick (it shit me no end that SOS didn't knock that on the head TBH) but not that we are looking for offers. There has been Henderson speculation for some time, but that's the normal "out of contract " stuff

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Lucky he's white. At least we can boo him next year

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Im unsure of your point.
Are you saying I couldn't have heard it earlier this season because the journos haven't picked it up?

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SOS is using analytics, ie. he can explain his thinking to others. That's not blind faith.

I've no doubt his data pointed to these guys being high value as trade options to bolster our list overall. If those are names he's bandied about then he thinks their value to us is significantly lower than their value to the wider football community. In some respects I agree with that.

That said, I don't think pick 12 is going to cut it for Yarran, and I would be hesitant to take that for Menzel. Lachie for 10 we have to accept but thankfully it's not too far away from his actual value at this point.

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Maybe I've missed it but I haven't seen where Hendo has walked out on the club.

Yes he has requested a trade at trade time but afaik it was the club that sent him packing before his contract was up.

Oh, and this 'playing for the jumper' crap is so yesterday.

They're professional sportspeople.
Loyalty ended years ago.

This.

It's sad, but people need to wake up to the new reality.

It's (allegedly) a professional sport now - players want to maximise their careers.
Loyalty has faded out as the VFL days have faded away ... admirable, but not necessarily the norm.

Loyalty to a football club is definitely an outdated concept for the most part (exceptions being guys like Buckley, who would give their right arm for the club).

On the other hand, loyalty to your teammates is something that will never change, regardless of the jumper you put on (except for red& black).

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#GUILTY

And it seems that many of the posters who have been calling for us to piss half the list off are the same ones kicking Hendo for his lack of loyalty.

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Hendo was upfront with them, despite what I feel was/is a fractured relationship within the playing group.

Well if their reaction was anything to go by, they either didn't care too much for him, or they're a sad, miserable lot in general.

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

Hendo can go wherever he wants if the trade suits us.
His half-arsed play at full pay is what upsets people.

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Or they were disappointed that he had felt this way for months without saying anything. If he cared about the playing group or cared about the culture of the club, as an appointed leader, he could have acted far sooner, regardless of any prodding from the staff.

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20 ways to see the world,
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Clash of personalities I suspect. Happens in footy clubs.

Just hope we're backing in the right players as leaders.

Murphy's a good player, but seriously lacks authority imo.

I wouldn't rule out Hendo thinking early in the year 'this group is !@#$%ed and the coaches are backing these flakes in... I have to go'.

In December "I think the foundations are starting to be built," Silvagni said.

"A number of young players have come through the door, the likes of Cripps and Menzel and Buckley.

"But having said that, we understand we've got to bring in more youth, more talent and supplement that with trades and probably explore experienced players and free agency."

Cripps, Buckley and MENZEL are Silvagni's foundation.

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..Agree with everything you said.. ..however, a real competitor rises, or goes down swinging,, against adversary.. ....hendo did neither, and ultimately he succumbed to the situation.. ..understandable, but not what we need.. ..any player that doesn't give consistent high effort no matter the off field concerns, or on field scoreline,, can sod off..

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I agree with the Hendo and other 'trade announcement' part but not the SOS bashing BV. Very tough on the players knowing they aren't wanted or part of the future. Shocking management.
Need to however give SOS time at the job as what he achieves. What does worry me, is that we have no head recruiter. I feel we need 1 of these to work with the list manager.

BV, I agree that it's unnerving that we have no RM in place at this stage of the year. It's also hard to disagree generally with the last line of your post.

But I'm not entirely sure the bits I've highlighted are fair.

I'm repeating what I said earlier in this thread, but it's not clear that the club acted the way you, and others, have portrayed them to have.

If we accept that the club told Hendo it was prepared to trade him if the right offer came along, in which context was that said....?

Scenerio 1 - Hendo says to the club "I don't want to be around for a 3-5 year rebuild, I want to play finals and have success before it's too late". CFC says "sorry you feel that way, but we are committed to a patient rebuild, if you don't want to be part of that and come with us on the journey, we will trade you if we get the right offer to the club of your choice".

Scenerio 2 - CFC says to Hendo "we reckon about $400k a year is fair for your next contract". Hendo says "$600k or GAGF". CFC says "we won't be paying that, if you want $600k, we will trade you if we get the right offer to a club willing to meet your pay expectations".

Scenerio 3 - Hendo is happy to stay at the club for less money than he would get elsewhere and is excited by the challenge of being part of the leadership group of a team likely to be bottom 4 until 2019. But CFC thinks it is spoilt for choice with KP talent and tells Hendo he's not much chop and we will trade you if we get the right offer two rounds into the season.

I think Scenerio 3 is very unlikely.

My money is on Scenerio 1 being closest to the mark.

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