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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:53 pm 
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I think Jones will still be on our primary list in 2016.




Which will make our list look pretty secondary.


If we're going to trade Henderson not only will Jones be on the list, but he'll probably be playing more regularly too. :yikes:


I would really know who's idea it was to recruit Jones, who decided on a 3 year deal and who agreed to pick 46. It is easily the dumbest deal I have ever seen. Even at the time everybody knew it except Carlton. It is not even a question if he will make it, he is not even close to being an AFL player.

It just defies logic.

Is anyone ever going to take responsibility?


im utterly and completely convinced that the bloke who was our recruiter who left just after the draft last year made selections knowing he was going to go and was trying to @#$%&! us over as much as possible.

boekhurst at 19, jones for pick 46, tutt ....

its the only thing that makes any sense, someone who was trying to stitch us up did so very successfully IMO.


It's just interesting that no one I speak to can give a straight answer on this.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:23 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
ScottSaunders wrote:
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[quote="cecil89"]I think Jones will still be on our primary list in 2016.




Which will make our list look pretty secondary.


If we're going to trade Henderson not only will Jones be on the list, but he'll probably be playing more regularly too. :yikes:


I would really know who's idea it was to recruit Jones, who decided on a 3 year deal and who agreed to pick 46. It is easily the dumbest deal I have ever seen. Even at the time everybody knew it except Carlton. It is not even a question if he will make it, he is not even close to being an AFL player.

It just defies logic.

Is anyone ever going to take responsibility?


im utterly and completely convinced that the bloke who was our recruiter who left just after the draft last year made selections knowing he was going to go and was trying to @#$%&! us over as much as possible.

boekhurst at 19, jones for pick 46, tutt ....

its the only thing that makes any sense, someone who was trying to stitch us up did so very successfully IMO.


It's just interesting that no one I speak to can give a straight answer on this.[/quote]
Certainly that's what Malthouse was doing

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:11 pm 
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In hindsight recruiting Jones was an error, but to say that at the time 'everybody knew it' is an exaggeration. Go back and look at the Jones thread in talking recruitment. Opinion is fairly well split 50/50.

The big mistake was the three year deal given to him.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:14 pm 
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billc3 wrote:
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[quote="AGRO"][quote="cecil89"]I think Jones will still be on our primary list in 2016.




Which will make our list look pretty secondary.


If we're going to trade Henderson not only will Jones be on the list, but he'll probably be playing more regularly too. :yikes:


I would really know who's idea it was to recruit Jones, who decided on a 3 year deal and who agreed to pick 46. It is easily the dumbest deal I have ever seen. Even at the time everybody knew it except Carlton. It is not even a question if he will make it, he is not even close to being an AFL player.

It just defies logic.

Is anyone ever going to take responsibility?


im utterly and completely convinced that the bloke who was our recruiter who left just after the draft last year made selections knowing he was going to go and was trying to @#$%&! us over as much as possible.

boekhurst at 19, jones for pick 46, tutt ....

its the only thing that makes any sense, someone who was trying to stitch us up did so very successfully IMO.


It's just interesting that no one I speak to can give a straight answer on this.[/quote]
Certainly that's what Malthouse was doing[/quote]
Did Malthouse make the recruitment department look bad or did the recruitment department make Malthouse look bad

Interesting argument

But I suppose we could always use the old chestnut and blame the board

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:32 pm 
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Yep jones is a bust. Got it.

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No Dane. He's an "animal". Remember?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:20 am 
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A busted beast of an animal. Got it.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 1:34 pm 
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And the same bloke couldn't see his side losing a game.

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Focus on liam jones and bb all we want but there is a difference between puffing billy (rogers) and a trainwreck (hughes)


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BB is good.

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Funnily people within the club ...yeah I know.. I know.. rate Rogers less than hughes

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:11 pm 
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ScottSaunders wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
cecil89 wrote:
AGRO wrote:
cecil89 wrote:
I think Jones will still be on our primary list in 2016.




Which will make our list look pretty secondary.


If we're going to trade Henderson not only will Jones be on the list, but he'll probably be playing more regularly too. :yikes:


I would really know who's idea it was to recruit Jones, who decided on a 3 year deal and who agreed to pick 46. It is easily the dumbest deal I have ever seen. Even at the time everybody knew it except Carlton. It is not even a question if he will make it, he is not even close to being an AFL player.

It just defies logic.

Is anyone ever going to take responsibility?


im utterly and completely convinced that the bloke who was our recruiter who left just after the draft last year made selections knowing he was going to go and was trying to @#$%&! us over as much as possible.

boekhurst at 19, jones for pick 46, tutt ....

its the only thing that makes any sense, someone who was trying to stitch us up did so very successfully IMO.


Remind us who that recruiter was? And McKay also a key player?

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No issues with the club going to the draft getting youth.
But my fear is we don't have the battering rams to take the heat of the kids when they come in.
Club lacks mongrel
I liked the way GWS went about it. The brought in some hard nuts like cornes brogan and Macdonald to at least make sure their kids weren't beat up each week.
One of the problems we have had for years now and this goes right back to drafting Murphy. Is every kid we bring in becomes cannon fodder .
Get kids but also find some tough bastards to protect them whilst they develop

Yeah! Like Robbo!
Hang on...

OK. Like Bell and White.
Hang on... we want them to go as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:33 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Funnily people within the club ...yeah I know.. I know.. rate Rogers less than hughes


Amazing sums up the quality of some people within the club


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:08 am 
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I reckon that's based entirely on character

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:42 am 
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gerry atric wrote:
I think the jones rectmt and the inability of KJ to get a game even when we have barely enough players to field a team, along with two picks for warnock#11 for mclean etc makes us all nervous. Aish has talent, does he want to go home to SA? Is he intense? How come he can't get a game for the Lions? What do we have to give up for him.

Every team that is not capable of a flag this year is building, we just have a hell of a lot more building to do than most sides.

We got the Docherty deal right, partly because the lions were forced into a fire sale, but when we get a deal right it seems more god luck than anything, because we so rarely win on deals.


The Lions don't rate Aish that much. He is lazy and uninterested. So another Yarran/Gibbs/Henderson - so we will overvalue him and give up everything like we normally do

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:28 am 
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yeah no to aish ... lets just spend all of our picks on identified kids via the draft. no shortcuts.

this is why we're paying sos the big bucks, let's see if he's up to it.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:03 am 
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No more roll the dice recruiting. If there is a question mark over aish 's attitude , then we should just move on.


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