The Hindsight Coaching Thread

camel · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:09 pm

Shouldn't have signed Pagan.
Shouldn't have signed Ratten.
Shouldn't have signed Malthouse.
Shouldn't have signed…

Stone Free · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:15 pm

Didn't it all start going to pot once Parkin was appointed 'Director of Coaching'.... just confused everybody, especially Wayne Brittain.

scottopee · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:02 am **Posts:** 1724

Stone Free wrote:

Didn't it all start going to pot once Parkin was appointed 'Director of Coaching'.... just confused everybody, especially Wayne Brittain.

No ad a John Elliot!!!!!

Heavs · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:38 pm

Tell you what, it's going to be a race to see who can be the first to start the SAKC {insert new coach} thread.

camel · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:39 pm

Well, if it is Barker we're way ahead of that curve. :lol:

ThePsychologist · **Joined:** Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 am **Posts:** 7893

I'll probably cop it for this but given that we have 2 very well credentialed (at least before they came to us) Multiple Premiership coaches on the list do we think that the club, it's administration, recruiting and football department as a whole may be a bigger issues that of the coach?

Just a thought and possibly something we should consider moving forward.

camel · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:05 pm

Oh yeah, nobody ever mentions the board do they. :eek:

It's a good point though, because the board has signed those three coaches and not one of them had to apply for the job, we just went to them with an open cheque book (Ratten aside). And without a good and stable board/admin then it's very hard for any coach to succeed.

Yes, the board has its share of blame too, that's a given.

Heavs · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:09 pm

Cyber bullying Camel. You'll make the list.

ThePsychologist · **Joined:** Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 am **Posts:** 7893

camelboy wrote:

Oh yeah, nobody ever mentions the board do they. :eek:

It's a good point though, because the board has signed those three coaches and not one of them had to apply for the job, we just went to them with an open cheque book (Ratten aside). And without a good and stable board/admin then it's very hard for any coach to succeed.

Yes, the board has its share of blame too, that's a given.

I actually believe it's a bigger issue than the coach and by a long way. At the moment we are a death sentence for any coach. If you truly believed in your abilities and want a successful career you wouldn't come to Carlton. Fortunately there are only 18 positions available and most are desperate for a chance.

Malthouse went to the board said the list was poor. So what do we do? go and get Jones, Tutt & Dick from other other clubs and tie up our salary cap. Yet no one is held responsible.

I still worry that most of the people involved in some of the disgraceful decisions over the past decade are still at the club. If Carlton was a private business they would all be gone or we would have gone under.

ThePsychologist · **Joined:** Sun May 03, 2009 9:52 am **Posts:** 7893

Heavs wrote:

Cyber bullying Camel. You'll make the list.

Yawn. If you believe that is bullying you really are struggling.

camel · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:46 pm

ThePsychologist wrote:

…I actually believe it's a bigger issue than the coach and by a long way…

I certainly don't disagree with that view.

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

ThePsychologist wrote:

Heavs wrote:

Cyber bullying Camel. You'll make the list.

Yawn. If you believe that is bullying you really are struggling.

Whoooooosh!

muzza · **Joined:** Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:41 pm **Posts:** 2385

Shouldn't have signed Ian Stewart!!

CK95 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:49 pm

camelboy wrote:

Oh yeah, nobody ever mentions the board do they. :eek:

It's a good point though, because the board has signed those three coaches and not one of them had to apply for the job, we just went to them with an open cheque book (Ratten aside). And without a good and stable board/admin then it's very hard for any coach to succeed.

Yes, the board has its share of blame too, that's a given.

as do the players IMO

Mickstar · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 7304

muzza wrote:

Shouldn't have signed Ian Stewart!!

Or Ian Thorogood.

jim · **Joined:** Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:21 pm **Posts:** 8201

ThePsychologist wrote:

I'll probably cop it for this but given that we have 2 very well credentialed (at least before they came to us) Multiple Premiership coaches on the list do we think that the club, it's administration, recruiting and football department as a whole may be a bigger issues that of the coach?

Just a thought and possibly something we should consider moving forward.

Unfortunately they came to us as old school 90yos, who were past it. The younger one in-between, who wasn't a well credentialed premiership coach, was easily the most successful. We played finals then, less than two years after Pagan had made us a basket case. While not disregarding other aspects Ratten's efforts showed coaching had something to do with it. Either that or Ratten was a genius nearly making ac PF despite the drawbacks of the club, it's administration, recruiting and football department as a whole.

Anencephalic · **Joined:** Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:23 pm **Posts:** 506

Finished Ratten's contract and then booked in Roos the year he wanted to coach. Perhaps we should start completing contracts for a start.

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