I understand your viewpoint.

There are significant hurdles needed internally within the club.

However, what I would like to see is
a) if the AFL deems it is good enough for them to wipe out North Melbourne's debt via a series of grants, back-door payments etc...then it is good enough for them to wipe out Carlton's debt...or are all animals equal but some are more equal than others? With money, Carlton can then put more resources into recruiting, player welfare, membership (remember they didn't have enough money to man the phones earlier this year for membership)etc.

Or alternatively if they aren't going to do extra "dividends" payments to Carlton, then get North Melbourne to pay back to the AFL the money the AFL gave them. So too Port. Why did they deem North Melbourne's debt was more important to the AFL? Who deems this?


b) the "equalisation fund" that Carlton has to put money into that goes to other clubs. Carlton should not have to pay a cent for this scheme. This is an insane concept as it is once again piecemeal and ad-hoc and messy. Do we base "equalisation" on revenue or on where clubs have finished on the ladder over the last 15-20 years? what an insane idea. Socialism gone troppo...and believe me the AFL is operating as a quasi-socialist utopia.

c) the draw... why on earth would Carlton be scheduled to play Hawthorn twice? Who thought of this brilliant idea? Didn't the AFL realise that in the 2014 grand final they wiped the floor of the Swans...so scheduling Carlton to battle it out against Hawthorn twice is insanity. Maybe their execs missed the 2014 grand final as they were too busy bean counting and handing money hand over fist to GWS, North Melbourne, Port and other "project" teams and didn't get time to see the match. A reminder for the AFL - the match was over by the end of the 1st quarter. The Swans had Buddy Franklin, Kennedy, McVeigh and Jack in their team and they STILL got whipped by over 60 points by Hawthorn...and you schedule Carlton to meet this team twice? Why?

d) the AFL needs to change its perception of Carlton. I think this must be the reason why they continually funnel money into North, Port etc and bypass Carlton. They see Carlton as a "big club"... those days are over. 20 years of being humbled would surely change anyone with half a brain's opionion.

These are just logical first steps in what the AFL needs to do to write the wrongs. They also need to acknowledge that assistance is needed in the draft.

All of this will help as well as addressing the internal problems at Carlton you have mentioned.

we have to start again ,new coach,new assisstants,new fitness and strength,and the most important the recruiting people MUST get this opportunity correct and i know we have been here before but going to the draft is the only way to start the rebuild hope sos gets it right .

One good player per draft in the 1st or 2nd round isn't going to get the job done.

The AFL needs to give priority draft picks...they effectively gave GWS about 20 priority draft picks...giving Carlton, Melbourne and whoever else 2-3 extra draft picks this year and next..either in the 2nd or 3rd round if they deem it as an easy way to bypass the negative feedback- is a good first step.

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

Kruse our best???? that is quite a stretch....simpson , murphy, Curnow(turns it over but gives everything),cripps and then daylight...maybe we were watching a different game

He will be like Waite ,,, will never fulfil he's talent as he still plays like its junior footy(see ball, get ball) , has no presence about him , will be lucky if he has more than 3 marks a game and this is before knee injuries.

but hey lets sign him up for 3 years and then when he's 30 we will move him on....

he is worth something right now on the trade table and he would be the first one I would trade as there would be clubs lined up to take him ,,,, but this club has no balls and we will sign him up and give him a minimum of $500k a year ....ahh the beauty of this club !! I look forward to more battering's like Friday night as we have no foresight only hindsight!!

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#sayerscouldbetheman!!

The NRL always have more competitive seasons than us.

Reason- clubs can rebuild quickly with only a salary cap in place.

Scrap the draft for players that have 2 or more years experience.

Some perspective is needed. The competition is more even than ever. There are no longer any easy games. The grand equalisation plan has worked.
Most rate the swans as a highly successful team, yet they got flogged by the hawks as well. Clearly they are still a very good side, yet they were "off" on the day. It doesnt take much. Clearly we are not a great side, so already we are up against it. Add in that we played a lot of youngsters against a rampaging hawks side , and its not that difficult to understand the blow out.
Its no good wingeing that we have been hopeless at developing our young players and then when we play them , complain about their inability to compete with a very Confident top side like hawthorn.
This time last year , many were singing the praises of port. They had it right. They had the right coach, had recruited well, had developed their players. Yet where are they now? Not in contention. So was all that praise from last year incorrect? Or have they become victims of this even competition as well? It doesnt take much to turn it around because the difference between the top and bottom sides has been compressed. Clearly a swans outfit that got belted by the hawks, is not suddenly a side that has no coach , no good players , no ability to develop etc. They had an off day and they got belted. A team that is on paper very close to the hawks had a blow out loss. That tells me that the competition is very even. That the result on the day, more than ever before, depends on how the players are prepared for the game. Mentaly, physically. That these factors can overide years of development and recruiting.

So what did Hawthorn just have?

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Does anyone else find it a tad ironic that 2020 was the year we were hit by an event that no one saw coming?

We just need to figure out a way to play ourselves.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I wouldn't like our chances at the moment.

It should be a club rule : the deficit >100 points the punches start.
Hawthorn must have loved their friendly practice run against us.

Stop giving Carlton an 'out'

We are in this mess because we have the worst recruitment record of all clubs

We can't recruit quality coaches (and there have been many out there if we'd looked properly)

We can't recruit quality players (we'd be a top 8 side if half our mistakes from 2004 onwards were playing now

We can't recruit quality admin...fancy US having a full salary cap (laughable) and idiotic coaches with an agenda...losing Betts, Garlett, Jacobs, Kennedy, Laidler

We can't recruit quality people to our board

We have ourselves to blame. period

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I agree with this point. Manly was second last on the ladder a week ago, and yet they still have a chance of making the finals.

In the AFL, nearly every match featuring the bottom four or five is a dead rubber and it is largely due to the AFL not doing enough to assist the clubs that have been down the bottom of the ladder for most of the last 10 years. Carlton, Melbourne, Brisbane all should get priority picks....but I am sure the AFL will just look at assisting Brisbane. Watch out for Brisbane alone getting the priority pick.

Once again the argument will be "Carlton is a rich club...they can fend for themselves" overlooking the fact Carlton is five million in debt as opposed to having 5-10 million plus in the bank like West Coast, Hawthorn and Collingwood. Yet again the carcass of Carlton is fed upon year after year.

North vs Brisbane - was the result of this ever really in doubt?
Carlton vs Hawthorn - was the result of this ever really in doubt?

Has there ever been a club with a more unhappy bunch of footballers this millennium?

That's an amazing environment we have created for our stock of young men..not only to excel in Footy but to thrive as young men
Its the same with the staffers..

Shit organisation

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this is a genius plan!

no more boring Friday nite games.
we'll be perfectly matched with our opponents.
the other team will be as shite and as great,
the coaches will be evenly matched.

bloody brilliant cimm.

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Nick Holman can accept 1 game for striking Luke Breust.
Josh Gibson can accept $1500, striking Blaine Boekhorst.

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Mark Evans, Hawthorn till he dies.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

So an intentional punch by an experienced thug in the guts of a first year player away from the play gets a fine whilst a clumsy spoiling attempt by a first year player gets a game?

Can't work out exactly why I dislike football so much these days but I'm sure this fits in somewhere...

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