Its true ... I always thought the Madhouse was overrated ... and certainly by the time he reached Carlton he was a disaster waiting to happen ... and of course the Carlton FC obliged. After his appointment he began taking us apart piece by piece ... talented players were allowed to leave ... A wounded star was recruited at a price we should never have paid, and discards from other clubs (that were never going to make it) were recruited ... hmmm ... history repeating. The players lost confidence in themselves and were forced to play a brand of football that just doesn't work in 2013/2014/2015. It was always going to be a train wreck ... and the Club gave as much thought to his appointment as it had done for Pagan. So ... in the end we had some ghostly re-enactment of the Pagan days at Carlton.

I just want the club to be smart for a change. They have started well by getting together a good selection panel. I don't know who would be a good choice ... but its good to see that at least there is some thought going into the process. Its risky appointing someone like Barker because its so hard to determine how good he is after the Madhouse mess. As I have mentioned ... It wouldn't take too much to make an improvement after the Madhouse. And he has never impressed me in front of the camera ... he does seem out of his depth ... at times he struggles for words ... at times he just gives standard answers (and it suited Madhouse that he had someone like Barker who posed no threat) ... BUT... I don't know how Barker is with the players ... what his coaching philosophies are ... how he performs in the coaches box. We just have not seen enough of him to make that call.

If the panel comes back with a recommendation of Barker ... then so be it ... but at this moment in time I really hope they go for some else.

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Great response BBW. Well done.

if JB gets the position then we need to hire new,fitness and strength, backline and forward line,ruck coaches.

laidley and buffiant stays going by the small paper .

We can't afford to sack staff with contracts.

who is responsible for a game plan that has 18 carlton players in the hawthorn forward line so that when we get the ball there is no-one in our forward line to score?
is it to block up their forward line to stop them scoring - worked well last night.....
wonder if anyone keeps statistics on the time our forwards spend in the opposition forward line (like time in possession, time in forward area)..........
forget all this BS about a young and inexperienced list and how good hawthorn are - our kids are being told to paly shit tactics - and it has been like that for as long as MM was there........and JB and green, etc, etc..............need I say more?

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Watch the other 17 teams play. The do exactly the same.
No one has kept their forwards inside the 50 all game for over 10 years. I know it feels good to vent on the coach but if thats your beef, hang it on Clarkson, Longmire, Lyon and the rest as well.

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Unfortunately we tried to beat Hawthorn at their own game ... which relies on accurate and skillful foot disposal and run and spread football. No way we could ever match them and really poorly coached. If you take it wide, start stop football up the wing and then bomb like the Madhouse wanted ... that won't work either.

IMO, against the Hawks ... you need to move the ball as fast as you can ... try and make as much space as you can ... and tackle big time. We could never win this one ... the Madhouse has stolen away our next 3 years at least ... but even so ... the side was badly coached. Very disappointing.

We really need a new coach at the end of the year. Sorry JB.

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Can you write one post without creaming yourself over a side splitting pseudonym reference you've cleverly crafted about a previous coach?
"Madhouse" = "gold Jerry...gold"

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Sorry ... the damage he's done is so great ... It riles me and I can't help myself. I am getting old and desperately want to see that next premiership. The super duper coach was a super duper dud ... but more than that ... he was destructive.

I want JB to succeed ... but don't think he is the answer. As for the 'Madhouse' ... sorry ... as I said ... can't help myself and you are just going to have to put up with it.

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Maybe you should be coaching. Moving the ball as fast as you can and make as as much space sounds very in depth. Oh and tackle big time . I think they tried to do that but the pressure was too much last night. But, we have a footy brain on talking carlton LOL

I don't think last night makes a big difference to barker being in the top job next year. Hawks smashed Sydney by 90 odd on their home ground. The performance we had at Freo was pretty bloody good. Judge him on that, not a game against one of the best teams ever on a 6 day break. Barker has had to use 40 players on the list this year. Extremely young list. Must be playing the youngest list at the moment. Missing these players the last two years in that game last night:
Gibbs
Judd
Daisy
Scotland
Betts
Garlet
Robbo
McLean
Waite
Carrazo

Hawks are probably up there as one of the best teams ever. Can't expect miracles, but if you keep watching movies like mighty ducks you can believe in that stuff i guess. But, please use a sense of reality when making comments.

Perhaps your right ... but certainly trying to beat Hawthorn at their own game was clearly not working. I never expected us to win ... but wow ... it did seem that we threw in the towel very early. Our tackling was terrible ... uninspired. IMO we were not coached well.

Still ... I suppose we will settle for anything after the Madhouse (sorry 99prelim).

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Well maybe it is time to try something different - who knows it might catch the others off guard???

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So what we really need is a game plan that works with inaccurate and unskillful disposal, with no run and congested football.
I think you're on to something - we certainly have the personnel to put this plan in practice.

You would never kwow if he can coach.. His tenure is all about picks 1 or 2
The players know it... everything is compromised by the big plan we have set our sites on...

They're treated like cattle BUT... they must "try and be competive"

Shit club!

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SYN IS BACK

Its sooooo boring going over the same old stuff emm..
I have a waning interest in expressing thoughts and messages and people not understanding it.. I'm going to allow the football do the talking.

Can I also say that inside a year I'm betting fat boy mark will be inviting juddy onto this all star board.. (bored)

Theres no coming back from this ...

I won't be posting much from here on in... insanity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results.

This club is doomed..!

There is nothing new in what I can add because there is nothing new at the club... except heads..though they are going to try to convinceypu its all new...

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I hope you do continue to post here Syn, I enjoy your honest contributions and no BS attitude.

One thing for sure ... Certainly we don't have the skill nor have we been drilled to execute a Hawthorn game plan. Just one more dumb decisions on top of the many dumb decisions starting with the Super Duper Dud's appointment.

In any case ... Whatever the game plan, there is no excuse for throwing in the towel. The coach as much as the players is responsible. Even more so is the former coach who brought us to these depths of despair.

JB seems to be a good bloke ... and compared to the Madhouse (sorry 99prelim) he is a breath of fresh air (who wouldn't be) ... but IMO he is still not the man to take the club forward.

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Good blokes come last ...
The towel got thrown in Rd 2 by the president... that's the top of the tree..and when a monkey shits from the top of the tree there is only one way for the shit to fall..a.just try to not be standing directly beneath..yeah

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