Is it really that inexperienced?

i can't emphasise enough just how debilitating the expansion clubs have been on the afl.

each week i watch between 3 to 5 games, and the standard of footy, not just ours is condemnable ... there are kids running around in the afl who simply are not up to standard. there's around 10-15 guys on our list who have all had a run this year in the seniors, who would never have come within a bull's roar of the afl, had it not been for expansion.

and look at expansion. gws, despite all that talent can't get people to their games b'cos they're lodged firmly in a rugby league & soccer heartland.

the GC are a blight on the game. no one goes to their games, and the gold coast is the place where professional sports teams go to die. right back from the giants and seagulls, and now the titans days ... the bears started at carrara and moved. the gc is such a transient city, no one there embraces the "local" team because of this transiency. and I know i'm from there, and have lived here on & off for 30+ years.

anyway, i digress.

the decision to run two expansion teams virtually at the same time has absolutely robbed afl fans of a worthy game to follow for a decade plus, thanks to talent dilution.

meanwhile, the clubs who are powerhouses at that time of expansion will remain so for the future as every worthwhile FA takes big pay cuts to join them in order to win a flag. and with talk of hawthorn getting dangerfield this offseason on a reduced rate because danger wants to win now, the end is no where near in sight.

let's not forget the afl have for years have penalised melbourne clubs through profit sharing and allowing interstate teams to enjoy salary cap concessions ... and those chickens are all coming home to roost.

Is it really that inexperienced? I would be okay with it if we have a team of kids but I don't believe it's the case.

Jones, Tutt, Curnow, Jamison, Rowe, Murphy, Kruezer, Yarran, White, Henderson, Simpson, Everitt, Casboult aren't kids. They are experienced players but most aren't good enough. It's that simple.

Surely we need to realise that the list needs to be stripped back ala St Kilda & Bulldogs and rebuild. If Trigg thinks we just need to inject a few kids he is delusional.

It beats having no history at all...

It may not have been the least experienced, but it would be up there. I am amazed at the reaction. Hawthorn have savaged 2 of the top 4 sides in the competition in the last 2 weeks. They are merciless. As if you could have expected anything else last night. The perspective Clarkson puts on it is spot on (I feel ill saying that) Yes there are some deep seated issues there. That is why we are bottom 3 and dropping. Look at the players you listed there, Psych.

Jones - never any good. Worst trade in history
Tutt - battler
Curnow - good honest footballer but always a battler
Jamison - Nearing the end,
Rowe - Battler
Murphy - 37 disposals and 20 contested - did his bit
Kruezer - Still working his way back from long term injuries
Yarran - couldn't be less interested if he tried - trade bait
White - battler
Henderson - (I'll probably get smashed... but) Over-rated.
Simpson - nearing the end
Everitt - been at 3 different clubs for a reason
Casboult - flawed and inconsistent


My point is, nothing changed last night. This has been the case all year. Hawthorn are going to embarrass plenty of teams with the vein of form they are in. Someone said probably the best team since the Lions 3peat... I'd say they're better

12 players last night with 50 or less games would definitely indicate yes.

The major problem is the quality of those youngsters

Apart from Cripps and Doherty, I don't much confidence in anything else

not necessarily, things are changing

That's a cop out and the reason we are so bad.

A side with the experience of Jones, Tutt, Curnow, Jamison, Rowe, Murphy, Kruezer, Yarran, White, Henderson, Simpson, Everitt, Casboult should do better.

Can't blame a 138 point loss on inexperience

That's a cop out and the reason we are so bad.

A side with the experience of Jones, Tutt, Curnow, Jamison, Rowe, Murphy, Kruezer, Yarran, White, Henderson, Simpson, Everitt, Casboult should do better.

Can't blame a 138 point loss on inexperience

Some serious household names in that bunch

GWS lost something like 10 games by 15 goals + in their first year. To say inexperience isn't a factor is

12 players last night with 50 or less games would definitely indicate yes.