Well if you're interested, sit down and listen to an exercise physiologist try and explain the wear and tear that occurs during the season as they clutch at drops in platelet counts and WBC & RBC and searching for drug interactions that mitigate this, even though their high school level models fail to explain the data coming in. Plenty of lectures and lecture slides online.

The good clubs pool these people with the doctors, the sports scientist, the physios and the nutritionists so that they come up with a better process overall with their collective understanding of the human body. As individual groupings, particularly in the training area, they are @#$%&! hopeless at coming up with solutions.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Liam Jones and Jason Tutt are MM inspired mistakes
BB looking average.

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James Hird and Essendon* FC - #FOREVERDRUGCHEATS

Might be by design but how did it go for us this build?

High risk strategy when you've got no recent success to fall back on. Not to mention all the flow on effects (player confidence/moral, member and supporter angst, low crowds, sponsors and stakeholders etc).

You confident the club will get it right this time?

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We are on our way back...

How about this, 11 players with under 50 games and a few in single digits No amount of sport scientists, physios or nutritionists are going to get them extra game time experience, make them better ball users or even decision makers.

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31-3-2015 - R.I.P AFL, corrupted lying pricks
12-5-2015 - Go WADA
18-8-2015 - Suffer Hird* u lying flower
12-1-2016 - CAS goes bang, happy new year.. Drugcheats forever..

GC17 was announced in March 2008, the very start of a 4 year block where we'd just picked up Judd, made finals and come off three #1 picks. We had plenty of time to prepare for the compromised drafts but didn't.

Hawks won their last flag without Franklin so the '04 draft was hardly a leg up. We could have had the same but decided to top up that year, came 11th, and ended up with Hartlett and Russell.

Too much blame directed elsewhere. Others have coped. We haven't.

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"They're [REDACTED]'

Actually, that's either directly or indirectly the reason they have jobs

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!!

After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F .........
Visit http://fromthemoshpit.com/

Boy that was painful.

Hard to fathom the gulf in quality of those footy teams. I was thinking the top 15 users of the ball on that ground are Hawthorn players. And that's not an exaggeration.

It just looks like hundreds and hundreds of bad decisions by the club at every level.

i gave ellard and walker a mouthfull last night and i dont care if they got me tossed out, yarran was standing the mark when someone was haven a shot at goal, hands on knees and didnt extend harms till last second. i yelled out.... STAND THE MARK LIKE YOU GIVE A SHIT YARRAN YOU LAZY BUM... they both turn and give me greasy looks and walks says thats a bit harsh.... i told em clearly that its not harsh when i guy that bloody talented mopes around like a fairy who doesnt care and if i pay 450 a year for a membership we as fans deserve to see effort so if you think thats harsh boo hoo to you , dam i wish the club would call me to buy a raffle ticket to raise money for their end of season trip.

guys like yarran are spitting in our faces, i always liked yazz but this year he just turning up for the pay cheque

there are teams playing footy on Kepler-452b that are closer to an AFL premiership than we are...

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i don't wanna spend my life explaining myself. Either you get it, or you don't- Frank Zappa

So true.

The AFL haven't got the model right.

Not only did the introduction of the new clubs make life harder for some existing clubs, but irrespective of this the fact remains certain clubs seem to stay at the top forever and certain other clubs take decades now to rise.

It just takes too long for some teams to be in striking distance of a flag.

The AFL wanted a competitive comp where teams all got their time in the sun but it's not working.

Haw, Syd, Geel, Coll, WC , Port - these are teams that have won the most recent flags and they are always at the top or thereabouts.

I have stopped watching games now, not just Carlton but other games too. The AFL will start losing people if they're not careful.

The irony is just when teams like Carlton need draft assistance the AFL take away priority picks and make it harder to get FSs at least at the top end.

Too many clubs not enough talent and the systems don't make it easy to rise up quickly.

I know clubs must take some responsibility for poor recruiting etc but even there one could argue the AFL need to get involved somehow... The AFL shoukdnt stand and watch clubs run themselves into the ground through poor management.

maybe we are the new fitzroy like some1 suggested years a go. NEVER

I don't think there's any doubt we need to clean the list out to a large extent.

I actually think sticking up on KPPs is a luxury we can't afford now.

We need to stockpile high end young midfiekders through the draft by the bucketload bec we simply need to be competitive ASAP in the midfield. That's where games start these days. We can worry about talls later IMO.

I'd be trading/releasing via FA Kreuzer, Yarran, Henderson, Walker, Jamison etc and get as many high picks as possible and drafting 90% midfielders. We need to build a young group of quality mids very quickly else we can wave goodbye to Cripps.

Because they're in the Goldilocks zone. Meanwhile we're the 3 bears wandering aimlessly around in the forest with no real destination in mind just passing the time away.

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Yep.

Bring back the days when Carlton won 7 flags in 20 years, Collingwood made 40 GFs in 100, or Hawthorn made 7 GF's in a row.

Or Sr Kilda, Fitzroy, Footscray, Geelong, Melboune and South Melbourne winning zero flags between them in 40+ years, or Nth taking 50 years to win one. All in a 12 team comp.

But yeah, it's so much harder for teams now.....

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"They're [REDACTED]'

Pro - I wasn't there
I thought in the toughest of conditions BB stood up. He got belted by Gibson off the ball, and due to the woeful tribunal Gibson will get fined instead of suspended, but I thought BB showed a bit. Holman looks to have something and a good left foot. Murph has been outstanding in the second half of season, gets belted every week, gets no protection. Cripps again looks a star in the making.

To think in 2004 they were behind us. HAwks have built success on a ruthless, single minded coach with absolute belief in his plans and the ability to instill that plan and belief in every player. Also they built a side around Hodge #1, 3 top tens in 2004 ND - Lewis Franklin, Roughead and smart late pick in Micthell and good #13 pick in Rioli, then they have topped up with lots of players from other clubs and now free agency comes in to make the strong stronger

Hate our slow chip/ chip play. In 2004/5 Clarkson was hammered by everyone by introducing this style, and he turned it to gold, but I don't want a copy of a ten year old strategy I want a strategy that negates and surpasses that. I guess the swans got done by 90 so maybe 135 was okay, still I can't remember being angrier about a game. I hate Hawthron.

We are back to 2003. It's a long way back and we need to make smart decisions and be really good at the draft, what are the chances.....

That performance almost certainly puts Barks out of the job, it was utterly non-competitive. He has a second chance. How come we get to play the Hawks twice, I thought the top 8 played twice and the bottom 8 played each other twice. How does last years 12th get two shots at last year's premiers twice in a few weeks?

Better deliver something way better than that next week.

I hope never to see you again.

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