Need a 5 to 8 year plan to challenge for a flag
Need a whole new list baring probably 6 players
Need a new coach outside the club
Need all current coaches and assistant gone
and pray they don't stuff up again

Losing to stk by 100 is totally the same as losing to hawthorn by 130.

Stop saying the word oligarchs !!!

add Board and Football Manager to the list

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

As tough as it sometimes is, I'll keep supporting the Blueboys.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Agree. But we were the dumb asses that traded a pick 12 for a Brock Mclean in the middle of the two new clubs having the best draft picks ... that pick 12 was gold at that point in time and only a dopey football department could not see how important it was in the scheme of things.

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"can't kick ... don't pick"

This isn't an AFL issue, it's a Carlton issue. There were ways to remain strong or to rebuild during the compromised draft era, but as a club we failed to do so. Admittedly it was harder during this era, but certainly not impossible. We failed to draft well and failed to manage our list properly and it's fair to say those same issues have been evident within the club since before the expansion teams anyway.

Don't buy in to the blame game, Carlton's woes have been caused by our own ineptitude, nobody else's.

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@cecil_anderson

The best strip in the league.. that's all there is..

None of players have any cheek. Shrinking violets. A lot of nice guys..

Yep.

If we had a skilled administration in a difficult time we'd be mid table at least.

We're not.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

If I didn't know any better, I'd swear Clarko and Barker are singing from the same song sheet. He's spending his press conference recalling the same Hawthorn gave vs. Port in 2005 and defending our current decisions and process.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

His comments were nonsense.

"AFL needs to do something to get Essendon* and Carlton up the top". Give me a spell.

We've both been [REDACTED] for 15 years and for differing resasons, only have ourselves to blame. We've had first round draft picks, priority picks, AFL funded assistance and yet still at rock bottom.

Blaming expansions teams is a complete cop out.

Hawthorn, Collingwood, Geelong all won recent flags, Richmond, WB, St Kilda, Melbourne all improving, Nth in a Prelim last year. Three of those clubs have 70,000+ members.

We're our own worst enemy.

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"They're [REDACTED]'

Gutted and outcoached but I give some credit to the coaching staff, they had the guts to go into the game with a specific plan.
Kruezer onball which many here have been calling for for years. They looked to utilise the width of the ground instead of kicking into Hawthorns press.
It just fell apart because the opposition were too good and our players didn't have the experience/skill/capability to execute.

Barker has been rattling on about playing modern football and using the width of the ground to attack but he needs to understand clubs need 2 gears and a ball movement for each. Its OK to switch the ball to find holes in the opposition zone following repeat entries or after slow plays but you need to pull the trigger when the opposition don't have numbers back.
We still don't have the capacity to make those decisions correctly when the moment arrives. It will take time and repeated match simulation at training to educate the players and improve their decision making.
Positives? Holman uses it well and I like his attitude. Kruezer is getting more games into his body and Murphy and Simpson continue to step up. Lessons? Buckley turned it over too often tonight by not doing the basics well and most of our youngsters got an education by the most ruthless side we've seen for a long time.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Well put BV. I don't mind the game plan and structure Barker is trying to implement. It's a more successful blueprint for modern football than the plan we ran with for the first half of the year. Unfortunately we're lacking the skill level required to make the style work. Some of that is personnel and some of it is that it hasn't been trained into the group for long enough.
I prefer to see us at least play football in a modern manner even though the some of the results in the short term will hurt.

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@cecil_anderson

Gotta hand it to Kruz ....... just keeps going and easily our best tonight followed by the Capt (congrats on 200)

Yes it was bad .... yes we got smashed (x 10000) by the best in the business .... and yes we played a lot of kids ... looking forward to the day when we beat Hawthorn .... it's been a long long time now and yes I was there when we kicked 30.30.210 against them (we still lost the premiership that year)

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"IF YOU FAIL TO PREPARE, YOU'RE PREPARED TO FAIL" - Mark Spitz

Wasn't repeating anything and I'm no mug. So many people are keyboard experts these days.

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31-3-2015 - R.I.P AFL, corrupted lying pricks
12-5-2015 - Go WADA
18-8-2015 - Suffer Hird* u lying flower
12-1-2016 - CAS goes bang, happy new year.. Drugcheats forever..

Found an SP bookie willing to offer $35 on Hawks -120.5

Races tomorrow could be interesting. Hoping he hasn't skipped town.

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

we have the best of the best here

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

We dropped 4% points tonight, one more and we'd be sponsored by the TAC (wipe off 5).

Leaves us only about .9% above Brisbanes and sets us up perfectly for our game against them in a few weeks time.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Docherty, Everitt, Cripps, Holman, Buckley, improvement in Casboult, Best out of Rowe, Gibbs best season
Lost Betts
Versus
Mclean, Collins, Watson, Hartlett, Warnock, Bootsma, Hampson, Russel, Bower, Ellard, Davies, Mcarthy, mitchell, mciness, lucas. Lost Jacobs. and Grigg. Garlett, Yarran, Robinson probably get a tick