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emtwenty
PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:10 pm 
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Jones over KJ = sacrificing Jones for the mental scarring that is to come tomorrow night. No need to ruin KJ just yet.

We're obviously not concerned about exposing Boekhorst though.


Playing as a defender v Hawthorn or forward tomorrow night is going to be way harder than outside mid.
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The way I see it we've got Jones, Casboult, Henderson, Kreuzer, White, Jamison & Rowe against McEvoy, Hale, Roughead, Gunston, Schoenmakers, Lake, Gibson & Spangher.
So they're actully taking in 1 more talk than we are. I don't think we're carrying too many talls, we just need our runners to run hard all day and we need to improve our disposal significantly.

You've left out Everitt so it's 8v8. Gunston and Gibson add far more run than Jones and White, not to mention the goals saved and scored at either end versus our contingent of talls.

I'd rather we try to tire their midfield with an extra number than defend Gunston with White or hope that Jones draws Gibson's attention.

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The way I see it we've got Jones, Casboult, Henderson, Kreuzer, White, Jamison & Rowe against McEvoy, Hale, Roughead, Gunston, Schoenmakers, Lake, Gibson & Spangher.
So they're actully taking in 1 more talk than we are. I don't think we're carrying too many talls, we just need our runners to run hard all day and we need to improve our disposal significantly.

You've left out Everitt so it's 8v8. Gunston and Gibson add far more run than Jones and White, not to mention the goals saved and scored at either end versus our contingent of talls.

I'd rather we try to tire their midfield with an extra number than defend Gunston with White or hope that Jones draws Gibson's attention.


Yeah.

That will make sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much difference. :thumbsup:

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jimmae wrote:
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The way I see it we've got Jones, Casboult, Henderson, Kreuzer, White, Jamison & Rowe against McEvoy, Hale, Roughead, Gunston, Schoenmakers, Lake, Gibson & Spangher.
So they're actully taking in 1 more talk than we are. I don't think we're carrying too many talls, we just need our runners to run hard all day and we need to improve our disposal significantly.

You've left out Everitt so it's 8v8. Gunston and Gibson add far more run than Jones and White, not to mention the goals saved and scored at either end versus our contingent of talls.

I'd rather we try to tire their midfield with an extra number than defend Gunston with White or hope that Jones draws Gibson's attention.

In terms of mobility I think Kreuzer & Casboult are comparable with McEvoy and Hale. Jamison and Lake are similar. Henderson = Roughead. Everitt = Gunston. White = Gibson. Jones = Schoenmakers. The odd one out is Rowe, who's mobility is poor. Replace him Jaksch and I dont think there are any mobility issues at all.

My point is that I think it's a talent issue rather than a structure issue.

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I agree... so why not go where the talent is with our smalls? Rowe and Henderson can handle Roughead and Hale, Jamison can handle Gunston, but from there you pick the forward structure that can create the most goals.

I fail to see how White and Jones are going to assist with that more than sending Yarran or Buckley forward and having Dick handle their defensive duties.

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What does it matter if we're one tall extra? Hardly going to be the difference between winning and losing.
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jimmae wrote:
I agree... so why not go where the talent is with our smalls?


I'm not convinced that our smalls are enormously talented at the minute either :lol:

I'd be happy to see Dick for White and Jaksch for Rowe, but this probably isn't the week to do it given Jaksch would get out muscled by Roughead, Hale, McEvoy etc and White deserves some reward for a good performance last week.

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cecil89 wrote:
My point is that I think it's a talent issue rather than a structure issue.


It's as simple as that. :clap:

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jimmae
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I agree... so why not go where the talent is with our smalls?


I'm not convinced that our smalls are enormously talented at the minute either :lol:

I'd be happy to see Dick for White and Jaksch for Rowe, but this probably isn't the week to do it given Jaksch would get out muscled by Roughead, Hale, McEvoy etc and White deserves some reward for a good performance last week.

If Dick were playing instead of Jones I think we'd be at our most competitive, and it gives Yarran or Buckley a chance to play midfield or as a defensive forward to see if they can find a home. Need to inject more talent and speed into our forward line some how, because I suspect we're probably bottom of the competition right now for F50 pressure acts.

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I wasn't sure about our chances in this game but then I saw our ins......

Hawks by 223 points

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I wasn't sure about our chances in this game but then I saw our ins......

Hawks by 223 points

:razz: :yikes:

Who knows with the odds at the moment the Hawks might make a significant contribution to their retirement fund.

We can only hope

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B: Simon White - Sam Rowe - Michael Jamison
HB: Chris Yarran - Zach Tuohy - Dylan Buckley
C: Kade Simpson - Marc Murphy - Sam Docherty
HF: Troy Menzel - Tom Bell - Jason Tutt
F: Levi Casboult - Lachie Henderson - Andrejs Everitt
RUCKS: Matthew Kreuzer - Patrick Cripps - Ed Curnow
INT: Blaine Boekhorst - Liam Jones - Nick Holman - Brad Walsh

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Kristian Jaksch - Blaine Johnson - Mark Whiley

In: Jones, Boekhorst
Out: Carrazzo (foot), Fields (omitted)

Milestones: Marc Murphy (200 games), Levi Casboult (50 games)


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emtwenty wrote:
What does it matter if we're one tall extra? Hardly going to be the difference between winning and losing.

We're so evenly matched with them, one small error at selection will cost us

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Jones? Why?
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cecil89 wrote:
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The way I see it we've got Jones, Casboult, Henderson, Kreuzer, White, Jamison & Rowe against McEvoy, Hale, Roughead, Gunston, Schoenmakers, Lake, Gibson & Spangher.
So they're actully taking in 1 more talk than we are. I don't think we're carrying too many talls, we just need our runners to run hard all day and we need to improve our disposal significantly.

You've left out Everitt so it's 8v8. Gunston and Gibson add far more run than Jones and White, not to mention the goals saved and scored at either end versus our contingent of talls.

I'd rather we try to tire their midfield with an extra number than defend Gunston with White or hope that Jones draws Gibson's attention.

In terms of mobility I think Kreuzer & Casboult are comparable with McEvoy and Hale. Jamison and Lake are similar. Henderson = Roughead. Everitt = Gunston. White = Gibson. Jones = Schoenmakers. The odd one out is Rowe, who's mobility is poor. Replace him Jaksch and I dont think there are any mobility issues at all.

My point is that I think it's a talent issue rather than a structure issue.


But Hale has Pace.

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Blue Sombrero wrote:
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jimmae wrote:
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The way I see it we've got Jones, Casboult, Henderson, Kreuzer, White, Jamison & Rowe against McEvoy, Hale, Roughead, Gunston, Schoenmakers, Lake, Gibson & Spangher.
So they're actully taking in 1 more talk than we are. I don't think we're carrying too many talls, we just need our runners to run hard all day and we need to improve our disposal significantly.

You've left out Everitt so it's 8v8. Gunston and Gibson add far more run than Jones and White, not to mention the goals saved and scored at either end versus our contingent of talls.

I'd rather we try to tire their midfield with an extra number than defend Gunston with White or hope that Jones draws Gibson's attention.

In terms of mobility I think Kreuzer & Casboult are comparable with McEvoy and Hale. Jamison and Lake are similar. Henderson = Roughead. Everitt = Gunston. White = Gibson. Jones = Schoenmakers. The odd one out is Rowe, who's mobility is poor. Replace him Jaksch and I dont think there are any mobility issues at all.

My point is that I think it's a talent issue rather than a structure issue.


But Hale has Pace.


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Will be interesting to see which of our players Messrs Hodge, Lewis & Mitchell will injure

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Line in the sand.. we will lose, but I want to see us knock them around. Make them think twice.
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