Work harder at it cimm geez!

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

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I hope Essendon* folds.

play the kid, builds character and strength

also could give us another insight into the coaching

Play KJ - really think he will be good - great preseason - didn't really think he was that bad in first game - kicked a ripper goal from the boundary in that game- spoke to one of his former teachers suggested he was a ripper kid and he thought he had all the attributes to make it

Yep...another wasted draft pick
I've seen enough (or should that be..."haven't seen enough")

Never has there been another Carlton player who 'must be injured' every time his output is below par

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

Whooooooshhhhhh

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dane's trolling again

..not fit enough, has had injury setbacks.. ..is about on track considering the circumstances.. ....was always going to be a slow burn..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

..reminds me of Hendo, will be interesting in a few years time if people are disappointed in kj's honest forward craft.. ....both seem to be the support act, doing the hard work and setting up the finisher.. ..will spend more time ranging upfield..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

At a good club he would be fit enough in the first place.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

..I doubt it, or do you think another club could somehow give him back all the lost time due to the big injuries?..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

What are the big injuries?

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

^^^^^

..blown out knees before afl set him back a couple of years, plus in his 2.5 afl years to date the hammy issues shoulder and now knee issues..

....others don't believe me when I say it takes a few years to become afl fit, and that's from having some fitness, he came to us with nowhere near enough, he will take another year or two.. ..that's the timeline price for picking any player with no fitness at draft time.. ..because of the knee issues, it's easy to figure he could have some soreness, it's not just the chance the Lars will snap, but also ongoing soreness issues now and then due to the brutal sport and running demands.. ..its why a top five talent slips out of the top ten.. ..partly potential Lars snapping, partly zero fitness due to the Lars..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Has he had injuries to both knees? Whilst I agree injuries can hinder his fitness levels the issue is how unfit he is. Should still be a lot better than he is. My genuine concern is he just doesn't have the tank and agility. I have never seen a player blow up as quick as he does. Watch him live and it's very ordinary. You can actually see him trying but he is so far off the pace it isn't funny. It's not as simple with some players that it takes time to build an engine. I could train for 10 years everyday and still not run a marathon under 3 hours. I don't have that ability. There are a lot of footballers in lower leagues that have better skills or game awareness than a lot of AFL footballers but they simply don't have the running capability or agility. More so than ever it's a key component. Unfortunately for us and Menzel I think it's an area he will struggle and I can't see it improving.

The only real option, if injuries are causing him issues, is to rest him get him ready and then do a long pre season. Having him knocked around each week, if injured, isn't acheiving anything positive at all.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

..i'm talking basic afl fitness for him, not the elite onballer running capacity of the top mids.. ..from memory his last couple of years predraft were stuffed by the knees, including the much documented Lars at 16.. ..he was playing seniors for his s.a club, but coming off such a low base he was miles off the pace.. ..is still a couple of long, running focused preseasons away from basic level afl fitness..

..agility wise I think he is fine, but we need him to be more than a flashy forward pocket type.... ..high hf, serious time through he middle.. ..if he can start running through the middle in a couple of years then we have a boost.. ..flashy forwards are cream, not cake.. ..i'm ok with him needing more time provided he can cut it in the middle.. ..if he can't play middle cos he doesn't have that ability, then waiting four or five years for a flashy forward to play four quarters consistently, is too long..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

We need to be patient. I will judge him and the end of next season. As long as he shows improvement I will keep backing him and hope to see a break out year in 17. He is only 20.

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Koperek.

Sorry BKB but it doesn't wash with me. As I highlighted in another topic Menzel is indictative of a bigger problem. We keep recruiting players that we need to put time into and wait for and in the majority don't work anyway. It kills a list.

Look at last year. Smith Boekhurst Foster & DVR. Now Foster is a tall so they usually take some time but the other three are still way off playing any sort of AFL football. Two were selected before pick 30. Important to get them right. It's just wrong and stupid. Look at the draft and see how many very good footballers are already playing decent football at AFL level. Yet we can't get one?

The reason our list is so poor and we are crap on the field is for this very reason. Just as an example imagine if instead of BB we picked Goddard, Touk Miller instead of DVR, Jack Sinclair instead of Smith and Adam Saad instead of Foster. How would we feel about our list then? These guys are playing and will be near the top of their games in 1-2 years. We can then add Weitering, Curnow, Rice to that list. How much better do we look then? Would Henderson then stay? Would Yarran be enjoying football more?

I just think people are looking for good in anyone at the moment because we are so poor. We really do overrate our players. Hopefully with SOS in charge things will change. I hope.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Unfortunately Carltons entire list and draft strategy over the past 20 years has been based on the Mr Micawber principle.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

AGRO...king of references I do not understand!

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dane's trolling again

By the way, I would like to get within 60 points on Friday.

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Koperek.