Blue Vain wrote:
jimmae wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
jimmae wrote:
I'm staggered by the number of people convincing themselves that the VFL is AFL lite as opposed to a league with very different characteristics, characteristics that allow Ellard to excel.
How many VFL games have you been to this year Jim?
Zero, though amazingly we have this thing called television now, have you heard of it?
Typical Jim.
You've attended zero games, watched Ellard play zero times in the VFL. To top it off, I'd suggest you've watched the Northern Blues zero times on your all telling 'television".
Yet you preach the characteristics of the game and the capability/performance of its players to people who have actually gone to the matches to make informed assessments.
You seem a really nice bloke Jim and very intellignt but most of the time your head is so far up your arse, you make it very hard to be taken seriously.
Nobody thinks Ellard can translate his game to the AFL but he has attributes that will stand up in any competition. You can't simply dismiss those because he is playing in a lesser grade.
I've watched 3 full VFL games this season BV, so I'm not without some form guide. I know the one camera set up isn't going to pick up everything, but you're taking too much from his VFL form IMO. That's all I'm saying.
It's easy to get fired up about some of his efforts in matches, but with his athleticism and height the way it is, those are too few to make a difference in the AFL. Given Holman has enough speed and endurance to pitch in at senior level, I don't really agree with the idea of 1 senior guy to offset the younger bloke.
All of that said, if Ellard is the sub this is something of a moot point.
TruBlueBrad wrote:
If we can't promote people based off their VFL form, what are we supposed to use as a form guide?
Well we've tried to recruit based off of it, look how that went. It should be less about the numbers the consistency over the four quarters and more about what they try to do with the football, where they win the football and the spots they get to with and without the football.
I think top 4 VFL sides offer some decent guide in terms of a work rate, but as a team we've looked like plodders compared to them more often than not. The standard of our VFL matches has been woeful, perhaps not even far off half-pace compared to AFL level.
That kind of standard means you have blokes who miss good options, players who can dominate the corridor just through paying attention, and that distorts the statistics as well as your impression of their performance. Ellard tries to do the same things at senior level and gets closed down.
I think he'll work in better than previously because we've back to a short kicking style with some good chains of possession by hand, but his running capacity will not serve us well if he's to make a 3-4 quarter appearance tomorrow.
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