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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:49 am 
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I don't think Barker is the man.


I agree, ok so far but don't think he will get the job.


I'm not sure. Too little time to tell.

All I want is a full independant committe to interview as many candidates as possible and narrow it down to the best possible person.

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Wouldn't worry me if our next senior coach is an experienced coach.

As long as he isn't a one man band with assistants that only move witches hats.

We need a team of quality coaches in all aspects managed by a senior coach willing to delegate.


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:56 pm 
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I'd give the gig to David Teague.

He was a well respected player who went on to be a player coach with the Bullants then became full time coach and lead the bullants to grand final appearances 2 years in a row.

Has spent a few years at west coast under wosha and Simpson and is now working under Phill Walsh at the crows.

I'd give him a 3 year deal to develop the squad and then give him the flick when Ross Lyon becomes available


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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I'd give the gig to David Teague.

He was a well respected player who went on to be a player coach with the Bullants then became full time coach and lead the bullants to grand final appearances 2 years in a row.

Has spent a few years at west coast under wosha and Simpson and is now working under Phill Walsh at the crows.

I'd give him a 3 year deal to develop the squad and then give him the flick when Ross Lyon becomes available



THIS!!!

Glad somebody else is thinking similar to me. I thought i was the only one.


Really rated him with the Bullants and used to love hearing him in the huddle during the qtrs. He's did well over at West Coast and Ive heard very good things about him at the Crows (they are a client of mine).

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:30 pm 
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If we have a proper open in depth process we are likely (but not guaranteed) to get the right guy. Whoever gets it will have articulated a clear direction and destination for the club and a clear process for getting there, a good understanding of our list, where it is and what we need to progress, and a plan for developing our list to where it needs to go.

He needs to be able to handle the management pressures and requirements and be able to inspire the whole list to buy into his plans and to inspire confidence and faith from our supporters. Whatever experience they have they need to explain how that will make them the best person for the job.

I don't care if it is john barker, stu dew, mickey mouse or fev so long as they undergo a serious process that assesses all the skills, talents and experience needed. No more million dollar retired egomaniacs with no interest or knowledge of the list being hnaded the job, because we are too lazy to look.


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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gerry atric wrote:
If we have a proper open in depth process we are likely (but not guaranteed) to get the right guy. Whoever gets it will have articulated a clear direction and destination for the club and a clear process for getting there, a good understanding of our list, where it is and what we need to progress, and a plan for developing our list to where it needs to go.

He needs to be able to handle the management pressures and requirements and be able to inspire the whole list to buy into his plans and to inspire confidence and faith from our supporters. Whatever experience they have they need to explain how that will make them the best person for the job.

I don't care if it is john barker, stu dew, mickey mouse or fev so long as they undergo a serious process that assesses all the skills, talents and experience needed. No more million dollar retired egomaniacs with no interest or knowledge of the list being hnaded the job, because we are too lazy to look.




Aggree with this too. We need a total change at our club. This would be the first time EVER that we go through the process of finding the right candidate rather than just throwing money at a proven coach and expect them to lead us to glory.

Lazy way of doing things and we are the last club in the legue that seems to understand that.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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gerry atric wrote:
If we have a proper open in depth process we are likely (but not guaranteed) to get the right guy. Whoever gets it will have articulated a clear direction and destination for the club and a clear process for getting there, a good understanding of our list, where it is and what we need to progress, and a plan for developing our list to where it needs to go.

He needs to be able to handle the management pressures and requirements and be able to inspire the whole list to buy into his plans and to inspire confidence and faith from our supporters. Whatever experience they have they need to explain how that will make them the best person for the job.

I don't care if it is john barker, stu dew, mickey mouse or fev so long as they undergo a serious process that assesses all the skills, talents and experience needed. No more million dollar retired egomaniacs with no interest or knowledge of the list being hnaded the job, because we are too lazy to look.


Agree. Proper process to evaluate the best available. I'd also add that he needs to be supported by a decent group of assistance, as many good individuals as possible who can add to the modern game and adjust accordingly.


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Proper process has to happen.

I have been a fan of Teague though since he was the Bullants coach previously. I hope he is interested and applies.


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Footy Classified ‏@FootyClassified 11m11 minutes ago

"I still think they (Carlton) have Worsfold in their sights. I'm not saying that he's going to coach; they want him"- Caro.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:19 pm 
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Kill me now.

What's the point of having a panel?


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Effes wrote:
Footy Classified ‏@FootyClassified 11m11 minutes ago

"I still think they (Carlton) have Worsfold in their sights. I'm not saying that he's going to coach; they want him"- Caro.



If the Carlton Board go down or attempt to go down this path, it should be torch and pitchfork time.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Effes wrote:
Footy Classified ‏@FootyClassified 11m11 minutes ago

"I still think they (Carlton) have Worsfold in their sights. I'm not saying that he's going to coach; they want him"- Caro.


When Caro equivocates it means she's making it up.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:03 pm 
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She went on to say she thinks we want Worsfold and Dew to be his successor.


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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She went on to say she thinks we want Worsfold and Dew to be his successor.


There's about $2.0m a year tied up there.

It's simply irresponsible.

Calling bulldust.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Barker as the temp is the front runner and his results will mean much more than a slick powerpoint presentation and list evaluation.
If he can turn it around this year and has them playing to their skills and with passion, he will get the gig and should.

OK, he came from inside the club two weeks ago but his pedigree is pretty good. He's done his apprenticeship under some pretty big names, not the least of which is Clarkson.

BTW, just wondering how we might have gone with Yarran and Garlett playing last week. Yarran we will have next game but Garlett is playing like a sixteen year old without a worry in the world.

Eddie left. Garlett we kicked out for whatever reason. Loitering with Mitch, maybe. Mistake. Kids go to clubs with issues. Some work it out, some don't. Nobody wanted to touch Franklin or Lewis Jetta and now they're both at Sydney. We could have had Jetta AFAIR. I remember wanting us to get him. Mind you, I wanted the other Garlett as well. Some you get wrong.

Anyway, I reckon Barker will get the gig if he can maintain the rate of improvement. He knows that.

Ross Lyon? Genius? Nah. Good at finishing 2nd. His game plan is like MMs with a bit of extra run through the middle. He's lucky to have Fyfe and Sandi in the same team. He didn't have much say in Sandi and Fyfe was pick what? Fluke?

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Give Wayne Brittain his job back.


Whatever happened to him anyway? Didn't think he was a bad coach, just bad timing.


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:41 am 
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AGRO wrote:
Effes wrote:
Footy Classified ‏@FootyClassified 11m11 minutes ago

"I still think they (Carlton) have Worsfold in their sights. I'm not saying that he's going to coach; they want him"- Caro.



If the Carlton Board go down or attempt to go down this path, it should be torch and pitchfork time.


I can't believe they would...........then again. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
Ross Lyon? Genius? Nah. Good at finishing 2nd. His game plan is like MMs with a bit of extra run through the middle. He's lucky to have Fyfe and Sandi in the same team. He didn't have much say in Sandi and Fyfe was pick what? Fluke?



Making the GF is now a bad thing??

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:48 am 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
Blue Sombrero wrote:
Ross Lyon? Genius? Nah. Good at finishing 2nd. His game plan is like MMs with a bit of extra run through the middle. He's lucky to have Fyfe and Sandi in the same team. He didn't have much say in Sandi and Fyfe was pick what? Fluke?



Making the GF is now a bad thing??

Only for Malthouse...

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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cimm1979 wrote:
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She went on to say she thinks we want Worsfold and Dew to be his successor.


There's about $2.0m a year tied up there.

It's simply irresponsible.

Calling bulldust.


And from Dew's perspective, why do another 2 year+ apprenticeship, like Goodwin is. Sounds like he's pretty much ready to run his own show now.


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