The 'John Barker Can Coach (Somewhere Else Now)' Thread

99prelim · **Joined:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:01 pm **Posts:** 3561

AGRO wrote:

kennyhunter wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

How bloody refreshing was it to hear the senior coach in his post match press conference admit they got something wrong during the game. (Referring to the White/Walker rotation). Fantastic to hear the coaching group review their own performance and admit their mistakes. Without that honestly, there won't be improvement.
You could wait 100 years to hear Malthouse admit his mistakes. (And there were shitloads of them).

Credit to Barker. Its a simple strategy but when you have more numbers and ascendancy at the contest, it's imperative you utilise those numbers to spread from the contest. Instead of the moronic coaching of Malthouse that directed the players to kick the ball from the contest to where the opposition had the ascendancy. :screwy:

Watching Carlton players running the ball in numbers and drawing their opponents before releasing it to their team mates was magnificent.
It also frustrates the hell out of me because we've wasted the past 2 years of development playing @#$%&! disgraceful, bloody minded football. It will take a bit of time but we will only see improvement from here. It was also fantastic hearing Barker credit the leaders for driving the increase in effort. Listening to Murphy after the game, I have no doubt the leaders will now be given the opportunity to grow and make a real contribution.

A burden has been lifted from the club and I hope it never has the opportunity to stick it's head back in our doors again.

Good @#$%&! riddance.

The absolutely galling part is how much we paid the bloke who oversaw such tripe.
And the mates be brought along on big coin as well.

Spot on about admitting responsibility. Who me????? Mike never made mistakes.

Still, like the players, we need to look ahead.
Feels like a weight has been lifted off everyone's shoulders.
Let's hope the boys keep playing that way.

How about sheeting the blame for this debacle where it truly lies, and that is with the group of bananas that were responsible for the appointment in the first place.

The blame lies with the host carrier of the latest strain of our incompetence virus...Sticks

8 wasted years with 2 piss poor coaching and recruiting appointments, and no foresight into what 21st century AFL governance looks like

Not sure if MLG is any better, but just like the coaches, happy to give him an opportunity

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

Still hasn't rapped.

Megaman · **Posted:** Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:08 pm

moshe25 wrote:

kennyhunter wrote:

AGRO wrote:

kennyhunter wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

How bloody refreshing was it to hear the senior coach in his post match press conference admit they got something wrong during the game. (Referring to the White/Walker rotation). Fantastic to hear the coaching group review their own performance and admit their mistakes. Without that honestly, there won't be improvement.
You could wait 100 years to hear Malthouse admit his mistakes. (And there were shitloads of them).

Credit to Barker. Its a simple strategy but when you have more numbers and ascendancy at the contest, it's imperative you utilise those numbers to spread from the contest. Instead of the moronic coaching of Malthouse that directed the players to kick the ball from the contest to where the opposition had the ascendancy. :screwy:

Watching Carlton players running the ball in numbers and drawing their opponents before releasing it to their team mates was magnificent.
It also frustrates the hell out of me because we've wasted the past 2 years of development playing @#$%&! disgraceful, bloody minded football. It will take a bit of time but we will only see improvement from here. It was also fantastic hearing Barker credit the leaders for driving the increase in effort. Listening to Murphy after the game, I have no doubt the leaders will now be given the opportunity to grow and make a real contribution.

A burden has been lifted from the club and I hope it never has the opportunity to stick it's head back in our doors again.

Good @#$%&! riddance.

The absolutely galling part is how much we paid the bloke who oversaw such tripe.
And the mates be brought along on big coin as well.

Spot on about admitting responsibility. Who me????? Mike never made mistakes.

Still, like the players, we need to look ahead.
Feels like a weight has been lifted off everyone's shoulders.
Let's hope the boys keep playing that way.

How about sheeting the blame for this debacle where it truly lies, and that is with the group of bananas that were responsible for the appointment in the first place.

Jimmbo's about the only poster who doesn't hold the muppets on the board ultimately responsible.
And if we're not careful they will get away with it again.
But Mike has to be held accountable for his shit performance as well.

He has been hasn't he?

Not enough; we need to re-hire him and sack his arse again

moshe25 · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2005 1:23 am **Posts:** 11671

Megaman wrote:

moshe25 wrote:

kennyhunter wrote:

AGRO wrote:

kennyhunter wrote:

[quote="Blue Vain"]How bloody refreshing was it to hear the senior coach in his post match press conference admit they got something wrong during the game. (Referring to the White/Walker rotation). Fantastic to hear the coaching group review their own performance and admit their mistakes. Without that honestly, there won't be improvement.
You could wait 100 years to hear Malthouse admit his mistakes. (And there were shitloads of them).

Credit to Barker. Its a simple strategy but when you have more numbers and ascendancy at the contest, it's imperative you utilise those numbers to spread from the contest. Instead of the moronic coaching of Malthouse that directed the players to kick the ball from the contest to where the opposition had the ascendancy. :screwy:

Watching Carlton players running the ball in numbers and drawing their opponents before releasing it to their team mates was magnificent.
It also frustrates the hell out of me because we've wasted the past 2 years of development playing @#$%&! disgraceful, bloody minded football. It will take a bit of time but we will only see improvement from here. It was also fantastic hearing Barker credit the leaders for driving the increase in effort. Listening to Murphy after the game, I have no doubt the leaders will now be given the opportunity to grow and make a real contribution.

A burden has been lifted from the club and I hope it never has the opportunity to stick it's head back in our doors again.

Good @#$%&! riddance.

The absolutely galling part is how much we paid the bloke who oversaw such tripe.
And the mates be brought along on big coin as well.

Spot on about admitting responsibility. Who me????? Mike never made mistakes.

Still, like the players, we need to look ahead.
Feels like a weight has been lifted off everyone's shoulders.
Let's hope the boys keep playing that way.

How about sheeting the blame for this debacle where it truly lies, and that is with the group of bananas that were responsible for the appointment in the first place.

Jimmbo's about the only poster who doesn't hold the muppets on the board ultimately responsible.
And if we're not careful they will get away with it again.
But Mike has to be held accountable for his shit performance as well.

He has been hasn't he?

ROTFL.

Goltzenberg · **Posted:** Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:31 pm

Donstuie wrote:

bosman wrote:

If Barker can get them playing like this every week, would be a certain coach next year....

Hope not. That's what the Carlton of the past 10 years would do though. Saves them actually having to do a proper search.

The players are currently in their "ding dong the witch is dead" phase and are running like gazelles. No matter what, the club needs to do the right thing for once and hire the best guy for the job after a thorough search and interview process, and if that reveals Barker to be the guy for the job, then so be it.

Personally I would prefer someone from outside the club with a completely fresh perspective and new ideas, and Barker has been present for too many of this club's poor on (including his own) and off field decisions for my liking.

Aslong as the players are putting in, playing to a gp and competitive each wk, then it doesnt really matter who coaches the next 3 yrs. Malthouse has done a lot of damage to our list that we need a few yrs to rebuild. Losing the players we had and gaining jaksh, tutt, whiley, liam jones, cam wood and daisy have basically put the club on the backburner. Apart from cripps, we haven't got any 200 game players except for jaksh in our last draft. Jaksh was ok, but a real waste of a no 6 or 7 pick. Usually you get superstars in those picks.

Anyway, who ever is hired, we will sack that person and bring in another Malthouse type as the next messiah. If ross lyon or clarko are available then, we will be giving them the keys to the club. But it would be good to see if they can run an interview process. Very ironic the best assistant available is ratts, everyone else is an unknown. Except for barker that is on trial now

Rod Waddell · **Joined:** Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:49 am **Posts:** 1650

I actually thought Barker may have moved Walker into the fwd line onto Laird who was giving the crows plenty of drive. Walker would of had him in marking contests and just needed to make the crow eater accountable.

Anyway what would l know?

teagueyubeauty · **Joined:** Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:28 am **Posts:** 6450

He now has some breathing space with the bye, I expect to see some semi major structural differences now he can teach and train for a week without worrying about the next opponent.

With the damage Malthouse has done he must realise he's half a chance

Blues21 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:21 pm

There's a few people getting way ahead of themselves re Barker. I suspect it will be back yo reality v Port with a 10 goal plus thrashing. He won't be coaching next year.

kennyhunter · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:35 pm **Posts:** 2432

jimmae wrote:

kennyhunter wrote:

Jimmbo's about the only poster who doesn't hold the muppets on the board ultimately responsible.

Please don't put words in my mouth, that statement could not be any further from the truth.

Just messing with ya Jimm

camel · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:59 am

Judd does ACL in his first game under Barker.

SAKC!

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

camelboy wrote:

Judd does ACL in his first game under Barker.

SAKC!

jimmae · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:10 pm

teagueyubeauty wrote:

He now has some breathing space with the bye, I expect to see some semi major structural differences now he can teach and train for a week without worrying about the next opponent.

With the damage Malthouse has done he must realise he's half a chance

Four day break during the bye, so not as much time from a training perspective. Maybe he can send some information sheets out though?

Punter22 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:46 pm

teagueyubeauty wrote:

He now has some breathing space with the bye, I expect to see some semi major structural differences now he can teach and train for a week without worrying about the next opponent.

With the damage Malthouse has done he must realise he's half a chance

Along the same lines, I'll be interested to see how the team is playing in 5-6 weeks time (all things being equal with injuries). The changes have been refreshing and make us much more enjoyable to watch and more competitive, is this the Barker factor or the Matlhouse-has-left-the-building factor?

scottopee · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:02 am **Posts:** 1724

Blue Vain wrote:

How bloody refreshing was it to hear the senior coach in his post match press conference admit they got something wrong during the game. (Referring to the White/Walker rotation). Fantastic to hear the coaching group review their own performance and admit their mistakes. Without that honestly, there won't be improvement.
You could wait 100 years to hear Malthouse admit his mistakes. (And there were shitloads of them).

Credit to Barker. Its a simple strategy but when you have more numbers and ascendancy at the contest, it's imperative you utilise those numbers to spread from the contest. Instead of the moronic coaching of Malthouse that directed the players to kick the ball from the contest to where the opposition had the ascendancy. :screwy:

Watching Carlton players running the ball in numbers and drawing their opponents before releasing it to their team mates was magnificent.
It also frustrates the hell out of me because we've wasted the past 2 years of development playing @#$%&! disgraceful, bloody minded football. It will take a bit of time but we will only see improvement from here. It was also fantastic hearing Barker credit the leaders for driving the increase in effort. Listening to Murphy after the game, I have no doubt the leaders will now be given the opportunity to grow and make a real contribution.

A burden has been lifted from the club and I hope it never has the opportunity to stick it's head back in our doors again.

Good @#$%&! riddance.

Agree

Old stench out!! Breath of fresh air in!!

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

So, apparently he's 'released the shackles' and freed the players up.

Makes you wonder whether the players need 1000 coaches with an encyclopedia of instructions... ?

cimm1979 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:29 pm

jimmae · **Posted:** Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:47 pm

Rexy wrote:

So, apparently he's 'released the shackles' and freed the players up.

Makes you wonder whether the players need 1000 coaches with an encyclopedia of instructions... ?

They need their game sense trained individually, so I'm happy with the number of coaches and specialist coaches in today's game.

grrofunger · **Posted:** Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:40 pm

I was lucky enough to get some access to Barker on gameday yesterday.

He can coach, he was impressive from what i saw up close.

He is a real shot at the gig permanently from what i saw and also heard.

Braithy · **Joined:** Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:42 pm **Posts:** 7161

Good. I like him... And so far he's pretty much extracting the maximum from the playing group.

ryan2000 · **Posted:** Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:17 pm

I must say, about 6 weeks ago i said this guy couldn't coach and pretty much wrote him off.

Im eating my words at the moment as the last three games have shown some very positive style of football. It's so refreshing to see. Malthouse was always so bloody negative. But Barker is bringing back that modern football 'free-flowing' style of game and - dare i say it - i LOVE him for that.

Keep going mate. Im eating humble pie, but enjoying it.

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