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BluesRockMyWorld
 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:46 am 
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Cmon, snap out of it people.

The reality was that Jeff was massively underperforming and lazy at the end, particularly after Eddie left.



no. you're outright wrong. he had personal problems, was depressed and received zero support from the coach, club and staff.

not sure if you've ever been in contact with depression, but pretty much everything – including playing footy – takes a secondary role and a big back seat in your life when it comes knocking.

all gartlett needed was support.


So Braithy, how do you know Carlton did not provide support and help to Garlett? Or are you just guessing?

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:10 pm 
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My point is, Bomber's view would be representative of a high proportion of folk in the industry.


And what would be the view of bomber T by most people in the industry?

:lol:

We are dis functional no doubt


.....but BT has a history of being off the rails
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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:09 pm 
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Braithy wrote:

no. you're outright wrong. he had personal problems, was depressed and received zero support from the coach, club and staff.

not sure if you've ever been in contact with depression, but pretty much everything – including playing footy – takes a secondary role and a big back seat in your life when it comes knocking.

all gartlett needed was support.

Is there a source for this? I didn't know he'd been diagnosed with depression.

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azzurro
 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:21 pm 
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No- one may want to come and play for us (yet), and no-one seems to be putting their hand up to coach us either
At present however, I like the idea that we have someone from within taking his opportunity. Quite unknown, unproven, yet so far, well spoken and solid in his presence. Seems to be taking up his authority already.
Regardless of win/loss this year, will watch with interest as to how he engages the playing group and develops the synergies needed to bind what talent we do have together. This could be a welcomed (as opposed to nightmare) moment that has already found us.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:34 pm 
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azzurro wrote:
No- one may want to come and play for us (yet), and no-one seems to be putting their hand up to coach us either
At present however, I like the idea that we have someone from within taking his opportunity. Quite unknown, unproven, yet so far, well spoken and solid in his presence. Seems to be taking up his authority already.
Regardless of win/loss this year, will watch with interest as to how he engages the playing group and develops the synergies needed to bind what talent we do have together. This could be a welcomed (as opposed to nightmare) moment that has already found us.



Could lead us to a tower of triumph with his synergistic thinking

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Blues Clues
 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:36 pm 
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I guess no one wanted the Port job & Hinkley was the 'last man standing' - worked out ok.


Beat me to it..
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Blues Clues
 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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moshe25 wrote:
malleefowl wrote:
SamThaMan wrote:
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/28284072/simon-lloyd-in-frame-for-blues/

Simon Lloyd

Fremantle - Assistant Coach/Senior Development Coach

DOB:17/09/1970

Playing record:
Carlton Under 19s
- Captain 1988-1989
Williamstown (VFA) 1990-1994
- Vice-captain, 87 games
- P'Ship 1990, R/U 1992
Avondale Heights Football Club 1996-1999
- Captain Coach, 80 games

Coaching record:
Avondale Heights (EDFL) 1996-1999
- Assistant Coach 1998; Coach 1999
- Vic. Metro Senior Rep. Team Captain/Asst. Coach 1998
- Vic. Metro Senior Rep. Team Coach 1999
- EDFL Senior Representative Team Captain/Coach 1998-1999
Hawthorn 1999-2004
- Club Psychologist
- Box Hill Hawks Asst. Coach (VFL)
- Player Development Manager/Development Coach
Collingwood High Performance Manager/Club Psychologist 2005-2009
Fremantle Senior Development Coach 2010-

I was wondering about Simon Lloyd. He's the one out of the nine that are doing the Level 4 coaching accreditation that we know little about. I hope he is in the frame near the end. I like the fact that he has done a lot of work with younger players because hopefully we will be drafting a lot of them.

And his father played for Carlton.


Like Monga, probably barracked for them too
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Sydney Blue
 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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BluesRockMyWorld wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Bluey44 wrote:
Cmon, snap out of it people.

The reality was that Jeff was massively underperforming and lazy at the end, particularly after Eddie left.



no. you're outright wrong. he had personal problems, was depressed and received zero support from the coach, club and staff.

not sure if you've ever been in contact with depression, but pretty much everything – including playing footy – takes a secondary role and a big back seat in your life when it comes knocking.

all gartlett needed was support.


So Braithy, how do you know Carlton did not provide support and help to Garlett? Or are you just guessing?

Had a break up
1 in 3 people go through break ups
But most still manage to take themselves to work each day and some even thrive.
Its just another case of someone wanting to make someone else responsible for their actions.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 2:38 pm 
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malleefowl wrote:
I was wondering about Simon Lloyd. He's the one out of the nine that are doing the Level 4 coaching accreditation that we know little about. I hope he is in the frame near the end. I like the fact that he has done a lot of work with younger players because hopefully we will be drafting a lot of them.

Highly rated at Fremantle for his talent ID and development work.

Even if he's not head coach material, he should be sounded out and offered a better deal than what he has at Freo.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Stu dew, Leigh Tudor, Brett Kirk, Blake Caracella.
Someone who can relate to the players..
Does Yarran prefer to play half forward??
Does Menzel want to play in the midfield??
Talk to the players and listen to them..
Communication is the key, if players want out then fu<# them off...
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Blue Sombrero
 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:47 pm 
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Aker?

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Rabbit
 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 4:49 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
Aker?


Worth picking up as a development coach or line coach.
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jimmae
 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
Aker?

Let's put a line through him and Jono Brown. Brown was screaming for us to kick long along the wing to our forwards, who apparently should be taking marks to relieve pressure, and to kick along the boundary and knock it out to reset out of defence.

Pretty sure I've seen that game plan before.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Rabbit wrote:
Blue Sombrero wrote:
Aker?


Worth picking up as a development coach or line coach.


As long as he's not media manager lol

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The Normal One
 Post subject: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:16 pm 
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Barker is giving his chances a boost.
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TruBlueBrad
 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:41 pm 
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I don't think Barker is the man.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
I don't think Barker is the man.


I agree, ok so far but don't think he will get the job.
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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:22 pm 
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We need fresh eyes from outside this club. Would be Dissapointed if we appointed barker, despite how he goes. He has certainly bought back some enthusiasm and fight though.
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Braithy
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Sydney Blue wrote:
BluesRockMyWorld wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Bluey44 wrote:
Cmon, snap out of it people.

The reality was that Jeff was massively underperforming and lazy at the end, particularly after Eddie left.



no. you're outright wrong. he had personal problems, was depressed and received zero support from the coach, club and staff.

not sure if you've ever been in contact with depression, but pretty much everything – including playing footy – takes a secondary role and a big back seat in your life when it comes knocking.

all gartlett needed was support.


So Braithy, how do you know Carlton did not provide support and help to Garlett? Or are you just guessing?

Had a break up
1 in 3 people go through break ups
But most still manage to take themselves to work each day and some even thrive.
Its just another case of someone wanting to make someone else responsible for their actions.



yeah, right... and for some people a breakup, especially when kids are involved can be a trigger point for clinical and chronic depression and suicide. not everyone's the same, and that's kinda the point.
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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:46 am 
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Bluey (ch7 gameday) really, really, really wants the job :lol:

3 things he'll do...
1... Get the board, club and player leadership group to define what we want to stand for and achieve... same page etc
2... Draft, draft, draft... look to trade out
3... Make sure everyone knows their role... when we have the ball, when we don't, off field etc


Pretty sure most applicants will be saying similar... how do you choose the right one?

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