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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 11:02 am 
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We ve all been here before, and we all made it through the Dark Years under Pagan.
We all enjoyed the two Elim Final wins in '11 and '13 (sad, but that's the best the last rebuild gave us) so there's no question of sticking by the Club now that times are decidedly tougher.
I honestly think it wont be as bad this time round.
- Financially not a s bad
- Player facilities no where near as bad
- SOS (and as rumoured his GWS sidekick later in the year), in charge of list management instead of Hughes/Rogers.
- Old grumpy, outdated coach removed before the depths of the rebuild, unlike Pagan (who Collo and Sticks in their 'wisdom' extended his contract on the back of a Pre Season comp win in 2005 lol)
- Pres, CEO, List Manager and Footy Ops (despite their bumbled public announcements and slip of the tongue in interviews) seem to know exactly where we re at and where we need to go as a Club. For once we have some sort of 'plan of action'.
- For the first time ever, going through the proper process to get the best coach to suit the Plan
- Pressure on Board from the outset. They know they re hanging on by a thread.

Now that the whole MM saga is over, Im actually excited about seeing the start of the 'Rebirth' of this Club. I honestly think we ll do a a much better job this time.

Go Blues!!


Good post and I so very much want to believe you! i just have this feeling though that 1/2 way through the rebuild, just when it looks like it is all panning out I'll come home early from work and find my football club in bed with the pool cleaner (even though I don't have a pool)!

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 12:38 pm 
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2ndeffort wrote:
Dominator_7 wrote:
We ve all been here before, and we all made it through the Dark Years under Pagan.
We all enjoyed the two Elim Final wins in '11 and '13 (sad, but that's the best the last rebuild gave us) so there's no question of sticking by the Club now that times are decidedly tougher.
I honestly think it wont be as bad this time round.
- Financially not a s bad
- Player facilities no where near as bad
- SOS (and as rumoured his GWS sidekick later in the year), in charge of list management instead of Hughes/Rogers.
- Old grumpy, outdated coach removed before the depths of the rebuild, unlike Pagan (who Collo and Sticks in their 'wisdom' extended his contract on the back of a Pre Season comp win in 2005 lol)
- Pres, CEO, List Manager and Footy Ops (despite their bumbled public announcements and slip of the tongue in interviews) seem to know exactly where we re at and where we need to go as a Club. For once we have some sort of 'plan of action'.
- For the first time ever, going through the proper process to get the best coach to suit the Plan
- Pressure on Board from the outset. They know they re hanging on by a thread.

Now that the whole MM saga is over, Im actually excited about seeing the start of the 'Rebirth' of this Club. I honestly think we ll do a a much better job this time.

Go Blues!!


Good post and I so very much want to believe you! i just have this feeling though that 1/2 way through the rebuild, just when it looks like it is all panning out I'll come home early from work and find my football club in bed with the pool cleaner and 3 of his mates(even though I don't have a pool)!

Pics or GTFO...

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2015 4:45 pm 
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The club owes me everything... I was shattered by 1993, missed 1995 as I was overseas. Everything else prior I was far too young to know what was going on.
Disgustingly managed club post 1999.

Embarrassed - but I will still be going tonight and cheer them on. I'll show more heart than the players have been showing all year.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 12:25 am 
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The Club wes me nothing but it owes my boys a reason to stick with them.

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 2:34 am 
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GWS wrote:
Blue Sombrero wrote:
I was 18 when I saw the 68 GF, also saw 83 ,87, 95. The rest on tV or the wireless as it was back then.

I have sunk thousands of dollars and millions of hours into them.

They owe me plenty but I'll settle for one thing. Genuine effort.

They can't ask us to stick with them when they mock us with what they're offering in return. If they don't do something, we old farts will be dead and buried with nobody left to carry the baton. It's already happening in playgrounds everywhere. Where CFC jumpers once bounded and abounded, there are mainly Hawks, Geelong and Collingwood. I have been in shops where there are CFC jumpers and other items of merchandise clogging up the shelves and the Hawks section is sold out. That's the future right there.

If the board can't see that coming, they need to look more closely.

Even the Dogs supporters get effort.



Wow! You got to see Hawthorn beat Essendon** in '83?
typo. Well picked up, though.

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 10:30 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 10:53 pm 
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Like BS the '68 was my first Blues experience and have seen all the others. I have been very privileged to have had that in my life. I will always support them - even wore my CFC polo today to a bbq this afternoon much to the amusement of some other Aussies there.

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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 11:14 pm 
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I've been a weekly attender of games since the mid 80's but never seen a GF live. I become a member for the first time in 2000... for 15 years we have been mediocre, rubbish and pathetic. I reckon Carlton owe me.
Carlton use to be ruthless.. Now we cant get flower right.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 11:14 pm 
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Seen 8 premierships myself so can't complain ...... Hopefully they can turn this club around so others can witness some as well. Nothing like it when you win.

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:52 am 
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The Board owes the club.
We are the club.
The board owes us.

Time to pay up.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:34 pm 
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Taff wrote:
Like BS the '68 was my first Blues experience and have seen all the others. I have been very privileged to have had that in my life. I will always support them - even wore my CFC polo today to a bbq this afternoon much to the amusement of some other Aussies there.

I wear my CFC tanktop all the time here. Nobody has ever commented.
Probably because I'm the only Aussie for miles and the others are from Qld and League fans.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 12:40 am 
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Whilst I can understand and enjoyed the sentiment from the OP, I unfortunately cannot agree. As a paid up member of this football club, each member of the board owes it to me and all members collectively to make the right decisions for this football club or admit when they have made the wrong decisions and be accountable to fixing their mistake. The players owe it to the administration and therefore the members of the club to put their best effort on the training track and the football field to win every game. I can accept a loss if the players have actually put in their best effort. As a paid member I am not going to allow this club to have the attitude that we were once a colossus of a team in the late 60's - mid 90's so we do not owe our paid up members to make the right decisions and put in the required effort now. This current board has made mistake after mistake and short cut after short cut for almost 15 years, and they need to be accountable for their actions and be replaced. The very fact that they have waved the white flag after round two suggests to me that they are not delivering to me what I deserve as a member (the required effort) and they should go. I would support an extraordinary meeting to elect new board members, but where are these people that would actually take our club forward by making the right decisions and bring our club into the 21st century?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:15 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Look, they gave me the 2005 Wizard Cup, so I'm really not fussed about anything else

And fev won a Norm Smith medal! (even though it was called the tuck medal and presented by Tuck who announced it as a Norm Smith)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:06 pm 
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Like Robertbb, I have a family history going back to my great grandfather. The extended family all lived in Carlton until my parents moved in 1949. (I was born in 1947) My father saw the Blues play for the first time in 1927 at Princess Park. After school he, with some other Carlton tragics, would head to PP to watch their training, collecting footballs for Soapy Vallence as he practiced and practiced kicking for goal from every angle possible. Dad was a member for 76 years until the day he died in 2012 and he had an incredible memory for every Carlton player he ever saw play, and strong opinions on all of them. He was also at the '38 Grand Final and he could recall vivid details of the game including who kicked the goals and who was, in his opinion, BOG. While I am shattered at their present predicament, I, like my brothers, all of our kids and grandchildren, will never stop supporting the Blues. Whilst we have all lived in Canberra since 1968, (and TC is a godsend) we all still devour every news item about Carlton, good or bad. No one can take away the fantastic memories of our Grand Final wins since 1968, nor the fantastic wins at Princes Park. I am frustrated at the tripe that has been dished up this year, but there was a lot of tripe dished up between 1947 and 1968 and I never waivered then. 1962 was a bright spot and I was lucky enough to see all of their finals matches including our loss to Essendon* in the Grand Final. And even then we had stars (eg Johnny James) who couldn't kick straight. So my passion for the Blues will never diminish, despite Boards that need a clean out, coaches who don't appear to learn from their mistakes and flakey players, some of whom simply aren't good enough and should never have been recruited. I hope my grandchildren get to see another premiership!! My apologies for the longwinded cry from the heart. Go Blues!!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:39 pm 
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dane wrote:
I've seen 1.
Had to watch the replay to remember it.
They owe me.

One for me only as well. Now I only have our history to brag about, not what I have seen. :sad:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:41 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Look, they gave me the 2005 Wizard Cup, so I'm really not fussed about anything else

I said that at the time too. :grin:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:37 pm 
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Crazy Blue wrote:
Like Robertbb, I have a family history going back to my great grandfather. The extended family all lived in Carlton until my parents moved in 1949. (I was born in 1947) My father saw the Blues play for the first time in 1927 at Princess Park. After school he, with some other Carlton tragics, would head to PP to watch their training, collecting footballs for Soapy Vallence as he practiced and practiced kicking for goal from every angle possible. Dad was a member for 76 years until the day he died in 2012 and he had an incredible memory for every Carlton player he ever saw play, and strong opinions on all of them. He was also at the '38 Grand Final and he could recall vivid details of the game including who kicked the goals and who was, in his opinion, BOG. While I am shattered at their present predicament, I, like my brothers, all of our kids and grandchildren, will never stop supporting the Blues. Whilst we have all lived in Canberra since 1968, (and TC is a godsend) we all still devour every news item about Carlton, good or bad. No one can take away the fantastic memories of our Grand Final wins since 1968, nor the fantastic wins at Princes Park. I am frustrated at the tripe that has been dished up this year, but there was a lot of tripe dished up between 1947 and 1968 and I never waivered then. 1962 was a bright spot and I was lucky enough to see all of their finals matches including our loss to Essendon** in the Grand Final. And even then we had stars (eg Johnny James) who couldn't kick straight. So my passion for the Blues will never diminish, despite Boards that need a clean out, coaches who don't appear to learn from their mistakes and flakey players, some of whom simply aren't good enough and should never have been recruited. I hope my grandchildren get to see another premiership!! My apologies for the longwinded cry from the heart. Go Blues!!




Great to hear stories and memories like that. :thumbsup:

Next year we are coming up to 21 years since the last flag, and the way we are going we are going to easily break the record flag drought between 1915 - 1938, which is something I thought couldn't happen after 1995. :sad:

No need to apologise - we are all crying, at what this club has become.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:10 am 
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Crazy Blue wrote:
Like Robertbb, I have a family history going back to my great grandfather. The extended family all lived in Carlton until my parents moved in 1949. (I was born in 1947) My father saw the Blues play for the first time in 1927 at Princess Park. After school he, with some other Carlton tragics, would head to PP to watch their training, collecting footballs for Soapy Vallence as he practiced and practiced kicking for goal from every angle possible. Dad was a member for 76 years until the day he died in 2012 and he had an incredible memory for every Carlton player he ever saw play, and strong opinions on all of them. He was also at the '38 Grand Final and he could recall vivid details of the game including who kicked the goals and who was, in his opinion, BOG. While I am shattered at their present predicament, I, like my brothers, all of our kids and grandchildren, will never stop supporting the Blues. Whilst we have all lived in Canberra since 1968, (and TC is a godsend) we all still devour every news item about Carlton, good or bad. No one can take away the fantastic memories of our Grand Final wins since 1968, nor the fantastic wins at Princes Park. I am frustrated at the tripe that has been dished up this year, but there was a lot of tripe dished up between 1947 and 1968 and I never waivered then. 1962 was a bright spot and I was lucky enough to see all of their finals matches including our loss to Essendon** in the Grand Final. And even then we had stars (eg Johnny James) who couldn't kick straight. So my passion for the Blues will never diminish, despite Boards that need a clean out, coaches who don't appear to learn from their mistakes and flakey players, some of whom simply aren't good enough and should never have been recruited. I hope my grandchildren get to see another premiership!! My apologies for the longwinded cry from the heart. Go Blues!!


It took you a long time to make 2 posts Crazy Blue but that one was well worth it. A fantastic read.

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x2. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:56 am 
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Kade6 wrote:
Whilst I can understand and enjoyed the sentiment from the OP, I unfortunately cannot agree. As a paid up member of this football club, each member of the board owes it to me and all members collectively to make the right decisions for this football club or admit when they have made the wrong decisions and be accountable to fixing their mistake. The players owe it to the administration and therefore the members of the club to put their best effort on the training track and the football field to win every game. I can accept a loss if the players have actually put in their best effort. As a paid member I am not going to allow this club to have the attitude that we were once a colossus of a team in the late 60's - mid 90's so we do not owe our paid up members to make the right decisions and put in the required effort now. This current board has made mistake after mistake and short cut after short cut for almost 15 years, and they need to be accountable for their actions and be replaced. The very fact that they have waved the white flag after round two suggests to me that they are not delivering to me what I deserve as a member (the required effort) and they should go. I would support an extraordinary meeting to elect new board members, but where are these people that would actually take our club forward by making the right decisions and bring our club into the 21st century?



indeed.
let's hope it is still bubbling away in a carlton cafe.
change is gonna come.
hope it is sooner than 3 mistakes later. :wink:

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