It will But I am not American

I am not saying he won't but I have trouble seeing him getting physcially bigger (muscle wise) or much stronger. He is very skinny and wiry. After 20/21 players put on some size but not much. He needs a lot to be a regular key position player.

My question is that is a big risk for pick 7.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

I still hold a view that the Game Plan is part of the issue.

Rattens lacked defensive development and strategy.
Micks was a long bomb and totally [REDACTED] up defensive side of the game.

Our players do not know when to defend and how to attack.
Have to remember all players who make it on an AFL list have some quality about them but it needs to be harnessed to suit a game plan.

Is it development that has been the biggest contributor to our failure with all the players Keogh mentions? I think it's part of the problem.

But, we have to have a good coach with a modern game plan.

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Whoosh!

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dane's trolling again

Maybe BB but it's hard to judge a game plan when you haven't got the players.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Based on what?

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I.AM.NOT.AN.AMERICAN. PERIOD!

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After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F .........
Visit http://fromthemoshpit.com/

How many chicken schnitzels does it take to schnitzel a chicken?

This is not America...

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I'm afraid of Americans.

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I've just got into this thread.

Going back to the Judd trade I was nervous. I was worried that we were giving up a 10-12 year player that we had in Kennedy for Judd a proven champion of the game half way through his career with 5-6 good years left in him. Kennedy was the key position forward that we hadn't had since Sticks.

West Coast wanted pick 1 in exchange for Judd. We didn't want to give up pick 1 as we wanted to pick Kreuzer. We hadn't had a decent ruckman since Matty Allan. So we agreed to give them Kennedy, pick 3 and pick 20 in exchange for Judd and pick 46. The trouble is that we gave up 2 x 10-12 year players for 1 x 5-6 year player. Pick 20 and pick 46 were steak knives. In essence we potentially gave up 20-22 years of quality service for 5-6 years of quality service. That is why it was a risky deal.

As has been said before it was shortsighted. We had to win a premiership in a few years after Judd came or else it could be argued it was a mistake. Given we were at the bottom of the ladder that was always going to be a tall order. One player can not win a premiership. It takes a team and we didn't have that. We still had much of the puzzle to put together.

So now we are 7 years since Judd came to the club. He brought some leadership to the club. However, he is nearly done. Our recruiting since then has been appalling. We have even been trying to find that replacement to Kennedy since then (Watson, McCarthy, Mitchell, etc.). Then there have been so many other mistakes. We are always trying to find diamonds in the rough instead of going down the tried and true method of picking the next quality kid in the draft. We have tried to bring in "ready made players" and given up quality picks (eg. pick 11 for McLean). Will our trade last year of pick 7 to pick 19, Jakcsh and Whiley work? Why did we pick up an injured Thomas for 4-5 years and make him the highest paid player at our club? Why did we pick up a Western Bulldogs reserves player in Jones and give him 3 years? Was this another trying to plug the Kennedy hole?

We would be better off keeping all of our picks, aggregating all of the phantom drafts around at the time and taking the next best player on the list. We just need the best quality kids and rebuild from the ground up. That is the only way we will ever be a powerhouse again.

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Silvagni

Thank GOD American Ice Hockey is in town this weekend

Ooh...nice.

Still due a beer.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

There is one other factor of why we went after Judd that I still believe is invaluable but hard to measure.

We had 3 first picks in Murphy, Gibbs & Kruezer and we needed a circuit breaker from our tanking years, our culture was deplorable (we are still suffering in some ways from it), but the club was genuinely trying to rebuild the culture and Judd gave our young guns a mentor to show them the road to being a professional player, had we not had Judd then our players mentors would have been the rat pack in Fev, Lappin, Stevo & Scotland and who knows where we would be now.

Now? Can you get lower than last???????
Gartlett and Robinson another rat pack gone think Judd's leadership is totally overrated yes great professional but to much of an individual. Would have preferred Kennedy, Gibbs, Murphy and Kruezer to take us forward with more draftees instead of feeling we needed to add ready made players to pinch a flag with Judd. We would be in a much better position now.

The Judd deal would have been more beneficial if we had kept Fev.
As much at the time I couldn't wait to see the back of Fev in hind sight we would have been better off keeping him.
Would have gave us to genuine top liners

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