That old chestnut after all these years, dane? Where do you get your mindset from, the Prigs Handbook rule 1.01?

One thing that has pissed me of more than anything over the years with the way the club has been run is our trading. I was one of the few who disagreed with the Judd trade for Kennedy and picks 3 and 20 when it happened in 2007.

Anyone who thinks that this trade was the right one now is a moron. Judd shouldn't be going around one more time. As our ex moronic coach said he can't play 2 games anymore at
Etihad.
Imagine having Dangerfield and Kennedy in our side ripping up a new one with more years of promise to come. Throw in Mayne,Thompson,Greenwood,Whitecross, Collier,Selwood, Reid, Steven,Hooker,Bird,Grima and Walker who we could have got with pick 20.Armfield was part of the deal but we could have picked up anyone of the last 4 with pick 46 as well. Armfield is the interesting aspect of the deal to me because we was a matured aged player as well. No time to develop youngsters with this [REDACTED] admin.

Since 2007 here are our trades. You can troll through through the history of the last 7 drafts to see
Wwhat we missed out on
2008 the Warnock deal for pick 24 56 and 72 a total disaster
2009 McLean for pick 11. Fevola and pick 27 for Henderson and pick 12 which of course turned out to be spudrama Lucas
2010 Shaun Grigg for Andrew Collins Sam Jacobs for picks 34 and 67 both McCartney and McInnes were ordinary particularly the former and Laidler for picks 36 and 53
This was the " we must get key position players draft"
Mitchell was shit so was McCartney and Watson won't be at the club the way he is travelling in 2015.
2011 year off
2012 Russell for pick 69 which we passed on. We could have picked some diamonds in the rough here
Mullet, Evans, Gibson,Pearce,Frost, Jonas, Crisp, Spur, Marley Williams, Cunningham, Baguley,Johannisen . What a flower disaster
2013 Hampson for pick 32 pick 33 for Docherty we gave Sydney are pick 32 for 39 and
Andrejs Everitt
Giles we got with pick 39
2014 Gartlett and pick 83 for picks 61 and 79 Jaksch, Whiley and pick 19
which of course is Matured aged Boekhurst for pick 7 to gws pick 43 to Doggies for spud Jones


There you have it folks. A disaster on so many fronts.
Only 2013 is a pass mark.
Our inability to spot talent at the lower end of the draft
Picking hacks for potentially good kids because of a lack of patience
Placing too much emphasis on one aspect of the draft( key position players in 2010)
No long term plan. Everything is all over the shop. So reaction orientated .No trades after the horror of 2010
In my view last year was the worst. We have 4 spuds on our list when we could be developing 2 good kids.
The last game I went to was round 4 2012 against Essendon**. I won't be back as a member until the club gets its act together. If we go with kids in the draft this year and no more quick fixes I will buy a membership and get interested. Trade one of our overrated stars for a young kid as well. Start building our list from the ground up.

Folks in conclusion it's going to be a long road back but I am prepared for the journey. I have faith that Silvangi will do the right thing despite what our [REDACTED] board might think

Didn't the Eagles want Bower at the time? We said no and offered Kennedy instead? I'll never forget the look on Kennedy's face in the photo in the paper. Did not look impressed at the time to be traded to West Coast.

Can anyone verify the Bower scenario? I'm sure someone on here mentioned Worsfold asking for him.

I 100% agree on giving these big trades the steel toed boot up the clacker.

We just suck at them, pure and simple.

Some people will look at comments only one way. You need to learn from the mistakes of the past to improve the future. It's been as big an issue for this club as any. It's also called denial.

Imagine the Judd trade if it was Bower we gave up instead of Kennedy and we had have picked Hooker with the Armfield pick.

Imagine the Judd trade if it was Bower we gave up instead of Kennedy and we had have picked Hooker with the Armfield pick.

IIRC didn't we offer Bower and they would only take Kennedy?

In the end it was nowhere near our worst decision.

Poor recruiting and trading at Carlton? This is the first I'm hearing of it.

Hawthorn DRAFTING BLUNDERS. (IDIOTS!)

2006 - PICK 6 - MITCH @#$%&! THORP! could have had : Joel Selwood! SPUDS
PICK 24 - Brent Renouf! could have had: Kurt Tippett MORONS
PICK 33 - Jarryd Morton! could have had: Todd Goldstein DERP

2007 Reasonable draft with Rioli (Could have had Rance) and Whitecross. Stewy Dew

2008
Pick 16 Shoenmakers - Could have had: Luke Shuey: FAIL
Pick 34 Sheils - Could have had: Rory Sloane: UNBELIEVABLE

2009 - weren't really in this draft.

2010
19: Isaac Smith: could have had: Cam Guthrie, Jack Darling (line ball)
38: Mitchell Hallahan: could have had: Luke Parker

2011
33: Bradley Hill was a good pick
38: Jordan Kelly could have had: Michael Talia STUFFED THAT ONE

Agree. I would be interested to know who's idea and who instigated trading pick 7 for Jaksch/Whiley?

Imagine having Pick 7, 19, 28, 46 (Jones), 60 & 63 and then picking Ahern, LaVerde, Howe, Gregson, Sinclair, Smith. That is what can happen in one draft. Still specualtive but would we feel a lot better about our list and it's future then?

Pick 19 was part of that trade. We wouldn't have had pick 7 & 19 in the draft..

Black list all trading with West Coast.

Effective immediately.

Yarran can go to Freo for their first pick and Apeness.