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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 6:18 pm 
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Kreuz, Boekhorst, Murph, Judd, Jacksh and Jamo could all come in.

I'd give Murphy, Jamo & Judd another fortnight (Crows game + Bye) to get over their issues. No point rushing them back. Let's see how Kreuzer pulls up after today. Another fortnight building his match fitness in the VFL might be preferred.

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 6:49 pm 
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3AW Football ‏@3AWisfootball

Sam McClure tells us that Chris Yarran could be available this week, as the ankle injury may not be as bad as first expected


Great news!

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Play Buckley up forward and his career is over. Played most of his early football there and struggled. Would of been cut until he was moved back and showed some promise.

Leave the kid in a back pocket for the rest of the year and watch him develop. Like many others just needs a consistent run at it.

He's a high half forward type; he's had his defensive apprenticeship and is running to the right spots more often; deserves another go. Was playing as a lead-up option during the time you're describing. Completely different player now, hunting the ball off the deck and making great runs for the receive.

He'll be a great midfielder for us.

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He'd need to be elevated in place of Sheehan ABNS, which might not be the best move given Giles is on track to return off the LTI list in rounds 14-16, and is responsible for Byrne's senior elevation.

I don't think he'll spark our forward line at all to be honest; would rather see Fields, Walsh or Gowers come in.

Obviously we're scraping the bottom of the barrel now, and I don't invest much hope in Johnson, but when I look at last night's side the first thing I want to do is rip Jones out of it. We need a mobile lead up target who will compete hard consistently, fight to keep the ball in our forward line, tackle, chase. Watson doesn't tick enough of those boxes, so who else is there? Let's not rush Kreuzer back. Johnson has a bit of Simon Wiggins about him and at least he will scrap and try. I guess the same could be said of Holman, but we don't need another tagger.

I get your point about Byrne taking Sheehan's spot as an elevated rookie with Giles (hopefully) returning to the field in about a month. Is anyone about to go onto the LTI? Hopefully not, but how serious are the injuries to Gibbs & Menzel? Maybe we'll have a mid season retirement (Judd? Carrazzo?).

Walker comes to mind, as does Buckley, Smith and Boekhorst. I'd rather see some of those names in the mix.


not sure - watched yaz closely and he has a serious attitude problem - and seemed to wander around looking for someone to whack; clearly a walking time bomb......but I also wondered if mick has taken his runni8ng flair away and a turned hjim into the sulker he looks............

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 7:16 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
He's a high half forward type; he's had his defensive apprenticeship and is running to the right spots more often; deserves another go. Was playing as a lead-up option during the time you're describing. Completely different player now, hunting the ball off the deck and making great runs for the receive.

He'll be a great midfielder for us.



Sorry but based on what evidence? Doesn't have the poise to play that position. Been tried amny times at that role and really struggled.

Classic type that needs to be played behind the ball and run straight and provide dash. Defender or nothing. Play him there the rest of the year. Poor kid needs a good run in that role and be allowed to settle in one position.



yep, agree with you psych he needs space to run and create
he will make mistakes but if the players up the ground are doing their jobs and providing options he will be a good asset and effective


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:00 pm 
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Everitt should be trialled as our lead up "Gunston" style forward.
Showed something for a brief period in this role on Friday night.
Did anyone else notice this?

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:09 pm 
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Everitt should be trialled as our lead up "Gunston" style forward.
Showed something for a brief period in this role on Friday night.
Did anyone else notice this?


Yes worth a look. Put Walker in there too and get rid of one of the big lumps. Need to find a way of moving the ball forward that doesnt result in us being scored against on the rebound. Maybe even score ourselves. We will be a far better side if we had this sorted.
Maybe we can use shorter kicks and more handpass to carry the ball forward instead of 45m outlet bombs to 3 on ones that come straight back.


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 9:47 pm 
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Mark J wrote:
Everitt should be trialled as our lead up "Gunston" style forward.
Showed something for a brief period in this role on Friday night.
Did anyone else notice this?


Absolutely. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 9:53 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Mark J wrote:
Everitt should be trialled as our lead up "Gunston" style forward.
Showed something for a brief period in this role on Friday night.
Did anyone else notice this?


Yes worth a look. Put Walker in there too and get rid of one of the big lumps. Need to find a way of moving the ball forward that doesnt result in us being scored against on the rebound. Maybe even score ourselves. We will be a far better side if we had this sorted.
Maybe we can use shorter kicks and more handpass to carry the ball forward instead of 45m outlet bombs to 3 on ones that come straight back.


Agree, maybe just maybe we might be able to work with him there.
Sadly, I think I'm coming around club. We might need to settle with Casboult & Henderson up forward and Menzel, Everitt &\or Walker.
We might not have any other choices for now.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:00 am 
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Out: Menzel (Inj), Yarran (Inj), Jones
In: Judd, Murphy, Kreuzer

Would like to see Boekhurst. Depends if Judd and Murph come up.

Henderson back. Walker and Everitt forward.

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I wanna see Whiley back in, but not as a tagger.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:22 am 
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Leave Henderson in defence. Leave Jaksch in Defence ... lets start to get and develop our defence and not move them constantly.

I think we have the beginning of a decent defence.

Docherty - Jamieson/Rowe - Jaksch
Thouy - Henderson - Yarren/Simpson

I think Henderson gives us far more option as a CHB, and let Jaksch develop into the next Henderson.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:39 am 
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Leave Henderson in defence. Leave Jaksch in Defence ... lets start to get and develop our defence and not move them constantly.

I think we have the beginning of a decent defence.

Docherty - Jamieson/Rowe - Jaksch
Thouy - Henderson - Yarren/Simpson

I think Henderson gives us far more option as a CHB, and let Jaksch develop into the next Henderson.

Thouhy needs to be moved out of defence and further up the ground.
He is not the greatest defender out there and his foot skills are wasted being dragged deep all the time.
You are right thought lets develop and settle one part of the ground then move slowly up the ground

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:43 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
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Leave Henderson in defence. Leave Jaksch in Defence ... lets start to get and develop our defence and not move them constantly.

I think we have the beginning of a decent defence.

Docherty - Jamieson/Rowe - Jaksch
Thouy - Henderson - Yarren/Simpson

I think Henderson gives us far more option as a CHB, and let Jaksch develop into the next Henderson.

Thouhy needs to be moved out of defence and further up the ground.
He is not the greatest defender out there and his foot skills are wasted being dragged deep all the time.
You are right thought lets develop and settle one part of the ground then move slowly up the ground


the idea of thouy and yarren is for them to be our rebounding defender etc.. if they are dragged back, its for the likes of Docherty/Jaksch to rotate with them ... though in Jaksch would be a liability in that type role ... (I rate Docherty and think he too could be a great rebounding defender)

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ScottSaunders wrote:
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ScottSaunders wrote:
Leave Henderson in defence. Leave Jaksch in Defence ... lets start to get and develop our defence and not move them constantly.

I think we have the beginning of a decent defence.

Docherty - Jamieson/Rowe - Jaksch
Thouy - Henderson - Yarren/Simpson

I think Henderson gives us far more option as a CHB, and let Jaksch develop into the next Henderson.

Thouhy needs to be moved out of defence and further up the ground.
He is not the greatest defender out there and his foot skills are wasted being dragged deep all the time.
You are right thought lets develop and settle one part of the ground then move slowly up the ground


the idea of thouy and yarren is for them to be our rebounding defender etc.. if they are dragged back, its for the likes of Docherty/Jaksch to rotate with them ... though in Jaksch would be a liability in that type role ... (I rate Docherty and think he too could be a great rebounding defender)

I know that but I don't think Touhy is a good defender .
I'd would prefer to see him used further up the ground.
Hendo should never play forward again he is wasted up there and we are being robbed of seeing the development of one of the best defender's in the game.
I also think Gibbs is a better back aswell and Walker is twice the forward that he is a defender

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:02 am 
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ryan2000 wrote:
I wanna see Whiley back in, but not as a tagger.



he is worse than carrazzo.

allow that to digest.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:10 am 
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Braithy wrote:
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I wanna see Whiley back in, but not as a tagger.



he is worse than carrazzo.

allow that to digest.


Give him a chance to play his game and not tag first.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:28 am 
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King Kenny wrote:
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I wanna see Whiley back in, but not as a tagger.



he is worse than carrazzo.

allow that to digest.


Give him a chance to play his game and not tag first.



he's not that impressive in the ressies, and he's not tagging there.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:35 am 
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Braithy wrote:
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I wanna see Whiley back in, but not as a tagger.



he is worse than carrazzo.

allow that to digest.


That flowering Carrazzo spud had 29 touches and 7 tackles the other night, how he gets a game in the bottom team in the AFL is totally beyond me. Totally.

So hard to digest.


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Blues Clues wrote:
Braithy wrote:
ryan2000 wrote:
I wanna see Whiley back in, but not as a tagger.



he is worse than carrazzo.

allow that to digest.


That flowering Carrazzo spud had 29 touches and 7 tackles the other night, how he gets a game in the bottom team in the AFL is totally beyond me. Totally.

So hard to digest.


Carrots and potatoes.

I could digest that.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:41 am 
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Whiley looks like a 15 year old School Kid when he is out there.... has years ahead of him if he was to make it... not really sure if he has what it takes, but does need a few pre-seasons...


Menzel is bloody frustrating... such an Injury prone player-I wonder whether he is going to be YET another waste of a top Pick!! :banghead: :banghead:


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