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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 11:02 pm 
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Another thumping on the way I fear , especially if they regain Sloan and Smith.
We'll look a different side after the break. And hopefully win a few in the second half of the year.
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2015 11:24 pm 
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Sam McClure tells us that Chris Yarran could be available this week, as the ankle injury may not be as bad as first expected

Great news!

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Play Buckley up forward and his career is over. Played most of his early football there and struggled. Would of been cut until he was moved back and showed some promise.

Leave the kid in a back pocket for the rest of the year and watch him develop. Like many others just needs a consistent run at it.

He's a high half forward type; he's had his defensive apprenticeship and is running to the right spots more often; deserves another go. Was playing as a lead-up option during the time you're describing. Completely different player now, hunting the ball off the deck and making great runs for the receive.

He'll be a great midfielder for us.

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He'd need to be elevated in place of Sheehan ABNS, which might not be the best move given Giles is on track to return off the LTI list in rounds 14-16, and is responsible for Byrne's senior elevation.

I don't think he'll spark our forward line at all to be honest; would rather see Fields, Walsh or Gowers come in.

Obviously we're scraping the bottom of the barrel now, and I don't invest much hope in Johnson, but when I look at last night's side the first thing I want to do is rip Jones out of it. We need a mobile lead up target who will compete hard consistently, fight to keep the ball in our forward line, tackle, chase. Watson doesn't tick enough of those boxes, so who else is there? Let's not rush Kreuzer back. Johnson has a bit of Simon Wiggins about him and at least he will scrap and try. I guess the same could be said of Holman, but we don't need another tagger.

I get your point about Byrne taking Sheehan's spot as an elevated rookie with Giles (hopefully) returning to the field in about a month. Is anyone about to go onto the LTI? Hopefully not, but how serious are the injuries to Gibbs & Menzel? Maybe we'll have a mid season retirement (Judd? Carrazzo?).

Walker comes to mind, as does Buckley, Smith and Boekhorst. I'd rather see some of those names in the mix.

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:24 am 
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If you turn up tor this or any other game this year you are supporting an unrepresentative board that has been instrumental in getting us to where we are today. People need to focus on the real issues we face.


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 1:06 am 
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Woe :oops:

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 7:56 am 
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If you turn up tor this or any other game this year you are supporting an unrepresentative board that has been instrumental in getting us to where we are today. People need to focus on the real issues we face.


Stump up the money and a supporting cast and take over then.

The Board just removed there mistake.

The Board is implementing due process for a new coach.

The Board is rebuilding the recruitment department, with a list manager being first cab off the rank.

The Board has made efforts to re engage the fans.

They have an independent committee to select new board candidates that will offer a skill set, not just a seat for a good look on a resume.

The old and stale will be removed each year as terms end.

What else do you want? They have listened.


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 8:20 am 
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They have an independent committee to select new board candidates that will offer a skill set, not just a seat for a good look on a resume.



Yeah, good one... :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 9:18 am 
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He's a high half forward type; he's had his defensive apprenticeship and is running to the right spots more often; deserves another go. Was playing as a lead-up option during the time you're describing. Completely different player now, hunting the ball off the deck and making great runs for the receive.

He'll be a great midfielder for us.



Sorry but based on what evidence? Doesn't have the poise to play that position. Been tried amny times at that role and really struggled.

Classic type that needs to be played behind the ball and run straight and provide dash. Defender or nothing. Play him there the rest of the year. Poor kid needs a good run in that role and be allowed to settle in one position.

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 9:21 am 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Play Buckley up forward and his career is over. Played most of his early football there and struggled. Would of been cut until he was moved back and showed some promise.

Leave the kid in a back pocket for the rest of the year and watch him develop. Like many others just needs a consistent run at it.



i think he's come a long way from his early football days, and could handle the defensive forward role. down back prepped him for this role, and he can bob up and kick a goal or create one for another from practically nothing.

on a list void of all taking the game on and creativity, buckley is pretty unique to us. lol


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 9:25 am 
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ThePsychologist wrote:


Sorry but based on what evidence? Doesn't have the poise to play that position. Been tried amny times at that role and really struggled.




just add to my post above ˆˆ ... i think that's the one area any young player's game develops the most. poise. buckley has looked dangerous up front and showed heaps of poise finding the right guy for an assist.

his defensive play, footspeed and pursuit is the one thing our forward line despo needs to try and slow the opposition rebound. i just can't think of another guy on our list who has the burst and creativity to do a similar role. the role we've lost since betts and gertlett got turfed.


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 9:38 am 
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http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php? ... Milestones

With one goal Casboult will overtake Peter Brown as our goal kicking record holder in #41!

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 10:30 am 
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King Kenny wrote:
Blues21 wrote:
If you turn up tor this or any other game this year you are supporting an unrepresentative board that has been instrumental in getting us to where we are today. People need to focus on the real issues we face.


Stump up the money and a supporting cast and take over then.

So that this same Board can spend it fixing up the same mistakes they themselves created. I'll stump up the money when every member of this Board who made the decision to sack Ratten & appoint Malthouse are gone.

The Board just removed there mistake(s).

See above. They've been removing their MISTAKES for years.

The Board is implementing due process for a new coach.

Only 20 years or so behind every other club.

The Board is rebuilding the recruitment department, with a list manager being first cab off the rank.

Happy to give SOS every opportunity to make a difference. But really our recruiting has been so bad over the last 10 years that it borders on pure negligence. As has been noted on this forum elsewhere Emma Quale's yearly giude would have served us far better than the highly paid team we have had in place.

The Board has made efforts to re engage the fans.

Captain Carlton, the Hover Craft? They surveyed existing members but did they make any meaningful effort to make contact with past members who have not renewed? If they didd I would be surprised if the content and competency of the Board was not in the top 3 issues raised.

They have an independent committee to select new board candidates that will offer a skill set, not just a seat for a good look on a resume.

See above (20 years behind the times)

The old and stale will be removed each year as terms end.

So long they start with the Pratt & Matheison aligned Board members this yaer I will be happy. But it won't happen. It goes like this - sack the coach we appointed, appoint a new coach, build up false hope and expectation and when it all falls to shit 3-4 years later we'll start the whole thing over again.

What else do you want? They have listened.


I really want this Board to admit what most people know to be true; that mistakes have been made under their watch & just like the coaches and members of staff who have had to go so to should they.

But just like in the past we sack the coach, trust these idiots to get it right again only to realise 3-4 years down the track that we are pretty much back where we started.

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 10:55 am 
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Sorry but based on what evidence? Doesn't have the poise to play that position. Been tried amny times at that role and really struggled.




just add to my post above ˆˆ ... i think that's the one area any young player's game develops the most. poise. buckley has looked dangerous up front and showed heaps of poise finding the right guy for an assist.

his defensive play, footspeed and pursuit is the one thing our forward line despo needs to try and slow the opposition rebound. i just can't think of another guy on our list who has the burst and creativity to do a similar role. the role we've lost since betts and gertlett got turfed.

And also Garlett. Don't forget him.

I know, I'm sounding a little despo, aren't I....

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 11:31 am 
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I know, I'm sounding a little despo, aren't I....



you're not inconsiso on your despo. little buddy.


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:55 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
He's a high half forward type; he's had his defensive apprenticeship and is running to the right spots more often; deserves another go. Was playing as a lead-up option during the time you're describing. Completely different player now, hunting the ball off the deck and making great runs for the receive.

He'll be a great midfielder for us.



Sorry but based on what evidence? Doesn't have the poise to play that position. Been tried amny times at that role and really struggled.

Classic type that needs to be played behind the ball and run straight and provide dash. Defender or nothing. Play him there the rest of the year. Poor kid needs a good run in that role and be allowed to settle in one position.

That would be the classical view, but that's the same classical view that hides poor kicks in the back line.

Buckley is a good kick, but not a naturally long kick; he's a finisher in the mould of Boekhorst, Isaac Smith, Lewis Jetta, etc. That's his niche, and in time I think he could take over the role Simpson plays for us as his game sense improves.

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 1:13 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
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He's a high half forward type; he's had his defensive apprenticeship and is running to the right spots more often; deserves another go. Was playing as a lead-up option during the time you're describing. Completely different player now, hunting the ball off the deck and making great runs for the receive.

He'll be a great midfielder for us.



Sorry but based on what evidence? Doesn't have the poise to play that position. Been tried amny times at that role and really struggled.

Classic type that needs to be played behind the ball and run straight and provide dash. Defender or nothing. Play him there the rest of the year. Poor kid needs a good run in that role and be allowed to settle in one position.

That would be the classical view, but that's the same classical view that hides poor kicks in the back line.

Buckley is a good kick, but not a naturally long kick; he's a finisher in the mould of Boekhorst, Isaac Smith, Lewis Jetta, etc. That's his niche, and in time I think he could take over the role Simpson plays for us as his game sense improves.


That's where you lose me.

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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 1:15 pm 
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Agree to disagree then, but I think his time in defence has been hopeless, and his time tried up forward and in midfield has been almost entirely in the VFL until very recently.

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If we were a contender I'd probably give krooooz another week in the 2's but what the hell bring him in and rotate him and Wood through the ruck & bench.


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If we were a contender I'd probably give krooooz another week in the 2's but what the hell bring him in and rotate him and Wood through the ruck & bench.

Yup, he and Boekhorst put in a nice shift. Holman, Ellard and Whiley were solid but didn't really break the game open.

Think it'll be a case of the former two being in the selection hat alongside whoever returns from injury through the week.

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Kreuz, Boekhorst, Murph, Judd, Jacksh and Jamo could all come in.

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