yep, it's a breath of fresh air.

i didn't realise just what a grumpy old bastard malthouse was, and how it was contagious.

I wonder if guys like Judd and Carrazzo pull the pin after the bye?

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

I think if either of them got a 6 week injury, they'd retire.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I just have a feeling that Carrots may call it after bye because of calf issues and go straight into umpiring. Judd may just of had enough.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Carrotts would already be of more use to us as an umpire. I couldn't see Juddy do that, I reckon he would tough it out, long time to recover post September.

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"Who discovered we could get milk from cows, and what did he think he was doing at the time?" Billy Connolly

..hendo is a good player, he has played better in defence because we loaded up talent for him to play with.. ..play him forward with Gibbs, simmo, walker and yarran and see how good he is..

..bolt was retained cos he can play the relief ruck role, and we hope he can improve his kick.. ....jones?, was a dud trade, and a dud three year list management cockup.. ....you need a balanced spine, Jones struggles as a third tall, he is not key position quality/ability.. ....bolt is the back up ruck, using him as a part time key position just settles he se up too much as he chops and changes in the ruck.. ..it's part of the reason we're a mess..

..hendo won't help our defence, if our forward set up rabble keeps breaking down due to lack of talent And work rate.. ..the ball rebounds far too easily from our forward line because it's Hendo or bust, if you move him to defence the ball will be coming in so frequently no defenders can stop it..

..play kj forward, let him develop his natural game and instincts first, 'hiding' a young player in our backline is cruel..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

i just can't agree, bkb. henderson helps our defense immensely.

henderson is an 8 or 9 as a CHB, or a 6 (tops) as a forward, you gotta play him to his strength, yeah?

Agree but gone anyway and it's his wish to go

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

If this is true....(and I do not know how anyone without direct contact with the player would know)...then cut out the cancer straight away.

He can play NB's for the rest of the season while we work through the entire list to see where we are at come the end of the year.

Too many players running the agenda at the club IMHO and the tail has been wagging the dog for too long!!

IIRC, he's basing that on his manager shopping him around, which is a standard tactic to maximise contract value for the player (and thus fee for the manager).

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

..I agree.. ..we aren't..

..play him down back, and we won't have any chance of winning.. ....he may stop some goals, but not many cos the ball will be coming down too much, too quickly..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Malthouse wanted to delist 15 players at the end of this season.

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It is not as bad as you are lead to believe.......it is %$#^& worse!!!

Jesus

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

..... and another 14.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!!

After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F .........
Visit http://fromthemoshpit.com/

We took this approach at the end of 2012 and look at where we are now.
Full and proper rebuild please.

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There is no footy god

imo, we need to improve our rookie selections. No more 'footballers' that are a level below/missed the main draft (unless there was a genuine injury excuse) - The rookie list shouldn't be used to pad out our playing depth but be high risk/high reward project players only

We should be loading up on athletes with an elite/unique attribute or two (height, speed, power, agility, endurance, kicking ability, tapwork, x-factor)

Have one dedicated coach working purely on the 8 rookies. Pure player development/game education with fixed KPIs on the players - if they don't meet them, they get cut/turned over for the next project player (with capacity for injury allowance).

If you look at a few of our rookies/ex-rookies, they just don't any stand out attributes - graham, curnow, carazzo, etc

The AFL circuit calls them 'skills acquisition' coaches 4thC.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I think Graham was the main draft but I get what your saying. We've put all our eggs into one basket with our early picks then have gone all workman-like late, when the best of those kinds of players have already thinned out. I mean, Jeez, look at Geelong with a player like Mark Blicavs. I'd rather one of the likes of him than two of the likes of Curnow and Carazzo.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

No. He wanted to do it when he first came to the club. He couldn't because many of them were tied up in long term contracts (e.g. Warnock). So he could only change 3. He delisted Thornton and Kerr and traded Russell to Collingwood for pick 69 which we didn't use anyway. Now we have Thomas and Jones on long-term contracts.

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Silvagni

IMHO If we were fair dinkum:


Retire:

5 Judd, Chris 278 31yr 8mth
44 Carrazzo, Andrew 184 31yr 5mth

Delist:


43 White, Simon 50 26yr 11mth
46 Ellard, David 58 26yr 2mth
14 Jones, Liam 74 24yr 3mth
22 Tutt, Jason 30 24yr
10 Watson, Matthew 20 22yr 10mth
31 Dick, Matthew 2 20yr 6mth

White and Ellard both have a crack but aren't AFL standard unfortunately.

Trade (if no takers, keep):

1 Walker, Andrew 184 29yr
40 Jamison, Michael 135 28yr 11mth
39 Thomas, Dale 182 27yr 11mth
4 Gibbs, Bryce 185 26yr 2mth
8 Kreuzer, Matthew 106 26yr
35 Curnow, Edward 75 25yr 6mth
41 Casboult, Levi 43 25yr 2mth

Need to trade these guys for good picks (yes some would need to be packaged together for a 2nd rounder... )

Trade/Delist

27 Armfield, Dennis 120 28yr 5mth
11 Warnock, Robert 88 28yr 4mth

Armfield has a crack, we might get a late late pick for him. Some team may be looking for a tall bloke for their rucks to practice on so we may get a can of coke for Warnock.

Keep:

6 Simpson, Kade 229 31yr
3 Murphy, Marc 193 27yr 10mth
33 Everitt, Andrejs 105 26yr 2mth
42 Tuohy, Zach 85 25yr 5mth
23 Henderson, Lachlan 107 25yr 5mth
21 Sheehan, Ciaran (R) 4 24yr 6mth
13 Yarran, Christopher 111 24yr 5mth
28 Bell, Tom 38 23yr 11mth
24 Whiley, Mark 14 22yr 5mth
7 Buckley, Dylan 14 22yr 2mth
12 Boekhorst, Blaine 3 21yr 8mth
15 Docherty, Sam 38 21yr 7mth
2 Menzel, Troy 31 20yr 8mth
18 Jaksch, Kristian 11 20yr 7mth
38 Byrne, Ciaran (R) 1 20yr 5mth
9 Cripps, Patrick 10 20yr 2mth

2 Irish rookies stay if they can stay as rookies.

That leaves us with 14 players to build a side around (if we can offload all those guys in the Trade category)..... Ruck cupboard is bare. Only 2 KPP players.

Keep as Rookie (if not delist):

36 Wood, Cameron (R) 79 28yr 2mth
32 Graham, Nicholas 12 20yr 11mth
17 Rowe, Sam 40 27yr 6mth

Not AFL standard. Rookie spot to fill spaces until the new draftees are ready to play.

? -

47 Russell, Fraser (R) 0 22yr 11mth
37 Fields, Tom (R) 0 22yr 5mth
19 Giles, Cameron 0 20yr
20 Holman, Nick 1 20yr
26 Foster, Jayden 0 19yr 11mth
30 Johnson, Blaine (R) 5 19yr 10mth
25 Smith, Clem 3 19yr 3mth
16 Viojo-Rainbow, Dillon 0 19yr 3mth
29 Gowers, Billy (R) 0 18yr 11mth
34 Walsh, Bradley (R) 0 18yr 8mth

9 games in total between these guys. Too hard to judge from a distance but I'm think the 20+ yr olds probably need to go.

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when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth

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