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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:59 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:11 pm 
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Hate to be the one to bring this up but.....

Dunstall was a Carlton supporter as a kid. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:12 pm 
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azza? wrote:
Hate to be the one to bring this up but.....

Dunstall was a Carlton supporter as a kid. :P


I thought that was a widely accepted fact, but it appears not. And, yes, that is a small part of why I have suggested him for the coaching selection panel.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:20 pm 
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camelboy wrote:
azza? wrote:
Hate to be the one to bring this up but.....

Dunstall was a Carlton supporter as a kid. :P


I thought that was a widely accepted fact, but it appears not. And, yes, that is a small part of why I have suggested him for the coaching selection panel.


I also feel like he has a soft spot for us still, just the feeling i got every time he's spoken about us.


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:39 pm 
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Dew is overweight even for a coach. I can't see him doing anything by example apart from roosting it 60 metres flat as a strap.
Nicks I know nothing of and I look forward to those in the know writing about the probables.

I would take Ratten back. Why? he's a Carlton man with an extra three years working with the sniping prick, Clarkson, whom I think most of us would rate as the current best coach around. PLUS he has been in the Hawks culture, which is one of treading the fine line between illegal and innovative. Add that to where he was before and I would be happy to see him again. I didn't want him to go in the first place. Odds of it happening? London to a brick.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:47 pm 
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I'll be interested to see who wants the job, so far Mckenna who is a desperado is the only one to say yes I am interested...Dew knocked back the Melbourne job and may
not want to come to a poorly run club. This new coach wont be the next premiership coach and will be doing the developing much like Mckenna did at
Gold Coast. Its going to be a couple of seasons of getting hammered most weeks before any kids we recruit start to show they can impact on games so it
needs to be a coach who understands the reality of the job and its probably going to get worse before it gets better on field especially when Judd retires...

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:48 pm 
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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
I'll be interested to see who wants the job, so far Mckenna who is a desperado is the only one to say yes I am interested...Dew knocked back the Melbourne job and may
not want to come to a poorly run club. This new coach wont be the next premiership coach and will be doing the developing much like Mckenna did at
Gold Coast. Its going to be a couple of seasons of getting hammered most weeks before any kids we recruit start to show they can impact on games so it
needs to be a coach who understands the reality of the job and its probably going to get worse before it gets better on field especially when Judd retires...


Dew was forced to knock back the Melbourne job because Sydney stood in his way.


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:52 pm 
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If the club does get its act together with recruiting and development, there's nothing to say the next coach won't be a premiership coach with Carlton.


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:13 pm 
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We want someone who is up for the challenge - because rebuilds aren't easy.

So if a coach doesn't want the job because he thinks we're too stuck up **** creek, then he probably isn't the best candidate for the job.


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:21 pm 
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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
I'll be interested to see who wants the job, so far Mckenna who is a desperado is the only one to say yes I am interested...Dew knocked back the Melbourne job and may
not want to come to a poorly run club. This new coach wont be the next premiership coach and will be doing the developing much like Mckenna did at
Gold Coast. Its going to be a couple of seasons of getting hammered most weeks before any kids we recruit start to show they can impact on games so it
needs to be a coach who understands the reality of the job and its probably going to get worse before it gets better on field especially when Judd retires...


No doubt there's a bigger picture than just the senior coach EB. I wouldn't be worried at only McKenna putting his hand up publicly. It's only Round 9 and every other candidate has current duties as priority.

There's no doubt as you say our current situation would definitely rule out a "Clarkson/Lyon", and would make a Sanderson/Worsfold/Thompson - ex coaches who have stepped into other roles think twice about whether it's something they'd want to do again.

The best assistants in the land though should jump at it.

Remember when apparently no-one wanted to coach Port. Ratten "pulled out" of the running, Cameron chose GWS, and Hinkley apparently got the job by default.

Richardson took on a team that were tipped this year to not win a game.

Beveridge's mob an apparent basket case with players walking out.

None would regret the move. There is no situation unfixable.

Only B.Scott and Hardwick seem to be under any short term pressure. There's very few opportunities, and I'm sure the likes of Sumich and Royal would encourage those to take any opportunity that's offered.

There's no pressure for immediate success at Carlton. Sure you could end up ruining yourself for life ala Neeld and Watters, but chances are they would have failed anywhere and more than likely would never have been offered the job in the first place by a great club had they of waited.

On the flip side you have the opportunity to become a legend in the eyes of fans and general football public in possibly being the man who brings a once great club into the 21st century.

We will have the pick of the crop.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:25 pm 
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Punter22 wrote:
If the club does get its act together with recruiting and development, there's nothing to say the next coach won't be a premiership coach with Carlton.


:thumbsup:

Hopefully that will indeed be the case and that the club will find a coach who has a credible plan and approach which can be sold to the board, the players and the members; and that the board will have the strength to stay the course during the inevitable tough times ahead.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:33 pm 
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dane wrote:
Hello all,

I know this may be a touch premature, but as we are pretty much going to sack Mick Malthouse at the end of the year (presumably if we don't make finals) who will we install as the new coach?

Which coaches are in the running?
What coaching attributes should we chase?
How much should they be paid?
Should we try and steal a current senior coach?


No words of thanks to Dane for having the foresight to start this thread only last month.


You picked this Dane.


Wow, Dane. You're a flower

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:34 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:
We want someone who is up for the challenge - because rebuilds aren't easy.

So if a coach doesn't want the job because he thinks we're too stuck up **** creek, then he probably isn't the best candidate for the job.


but em,
maybe it isn't that.
maybe it's that they know what we know..
that we have warring factions on the board,
and that they may be cut off way before they have a chance to truly rebuild.
surely we can't blame them for wanting to work in a cohesive unified environment?

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:46 pm 
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I get where you're coming from.......but the right coach will accept the challenge and back themselves in to make sure the board don't have a reason to sack them IMO


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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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emtwenty wrote:
We want someone who is up for the challenge - because rebuilds aren't easy.

So if a coach doesn't want the job because he thinks we're too stuck up **** creek, then he probably isn't the best candidate for the job.

Good point, Em.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Lets get Ratts back just to see how Synbad responds.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Megaman wrote:
moshe25 wrote:
Teddy Hopkins wrote:
dane wrote:
Hello all,

I know this may be a touch premature, but as we are pretty much going to sack Mick Malthouse at the end of the year (presumably if we don't make finals) who will we install as the new coach?

Which coaches are in the running?
What coaching attributes should we chase?
How much should they be paid?
Should we try and steal a current senior coach?


No words of thanks to Dane for having the foresight to start this thread only last month.


You picked this Dane.


Wow, Dane. You're a flower


Harsh, but fair.

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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moshe25 wrote:
Teddy Hopkins wrote:
dane wrote:
Hello all,

I know this may be a touch premature, but as we are pretty much going to sack Mick Malthouse at the end of the year (presumably if we don't make finals) who will we install as the new coach?

Which coaches are in the running?
What coaching attributes should we chase?
How much should they be paid?
Should we try and steal a current senior coach?


No words of thanks to Dane for having the foresight to start this thread only last month.


You picked this Dane.


Wow, Dane. You're a flower prophet. Nostradamus. Who woulda thunk that Mick would get sakced???

:clap: :clap: :clap:



A little sarcasm there Moshe. Too much cheesecake lately?

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 Post subject: Re: Our new coach - 2016
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Mark Stevens ‏@Stevo7AFL 14s14 seconds ago

Stuart Dew the buzz candidate for Carlton gig, but Matthew Nicks, I believe, also on radar. Very highly rated by Blues, snouts say

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 Post subject: Our new coach - 2016
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Effes wrote:
Mark Stevens ‏@Stevo7AFL 14s14 seconds ago

Stuart Dew the buzz candidate for Carlton gig, but Matthew Nicks, I believe, also on radar. Very highly rated by Blues, snouts say


He's been reading this thread?

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