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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 7:42 pm 
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just intensified the circus for 2 weeks and actually publicised a deadline

stupidity

Absolutely. @#$%&! clueless.

I disagree. They've set the agenda, not the media. It was either this or be seen to do nothing for the next few weeks, and we know how well that'd go down...


My thoughts too.

Why publish a deadline? Because we will be prepared to deliver the message on our terms, with a process to follow.


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 7:49 pm 
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Say what you want say and think what you want to think about Malthouse, his treatment by the media is a vindictive attack on him personally, but also his family. I think it's a disgrace. Yes, we're all baying for blood, but the level of carcass gnawing is pitiful. I understand this may be the media's opportunity for "revenge" against a guy who's bullied many reporters, but this is just a blitheness of bitterness and capriciousness IMO.

There are ways to handle these situations, but it appears certain sections of our society, lead by media, just wants the gory, sensational outcomes. Sad.

Spot on, I have a pretty good handle on how journos think and I can guarantee you they've been setting this up for a sacking outcome this week to then continue the story about poor old Mick and how bad we are.

They'll be spewing.

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:05 pm 
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Carlton will not be making any friends within the football community treating a legend of the game like this.


All legends of the game come to an end. He's no different.
If you don't perform, you get the arse. Mick would have ended hundreds of careers over the years. It's his turn.
Look to the future.

Agree wholeheartedly but there's a respectful way of going about it.

I believe the board would prefer he coached out the season, for the club and Mick, but you can't continue when you're getting results like the last few weeks.

It's so easy to just sack there and then, it's part of the clubs DNA. It's why I think so many are disappointed, maybe the supporters need to be deprogrammed also!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:08 pm 
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Club is so amateurish. They could have easily said As part of a review of the football club in the first half of 2015, a decision on the coaching staff for 2016 and beyond will be presented to the board during the bye round.

This could have been said in January. We look a joke, the board, CEO and coach look amateurish. The team looks even worse


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:10 pm 
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I don't mind it. Addressed the issues, outlined a timeline for a decision, spoken with coach face to face, explained reasoning and also reiterated that there will be no quick fixes.

Fair enough IMO.


Me too.

Well written.

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:10 pm 
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Ironic that it will be after Eddie Betts puts 6 or 7 on us


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:14 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
they just make shit up as they go along

R2 we are rebuilding
Mick will coach out the year
then its we need wins
mick will coach out the year, we honour contracts at carlton
ooh- err we acknowledge their may be a tipping point
we realise now that me must change tact and will decide in 2 weeks

what happens if we win the next 2 games (yes unlikely)

reactive, makey uppey nonsense

now pigeon holed themselves into a corner with the 2 week deadline and intensified the negative circus on the brand


How?

Damage is done.

Can actually do it with ggrace and style and recoup some respect...not from you...but from those who like the way we have gone about the decision and the change.

Lets wait and see.

Damage to the brand was done before this letter.

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:22 pm 
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Lol
2 weeks...
Everybody painted themselves into a corner and snookered themselves and each other...

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:23 pm 
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Will we have a farewell game for him?


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:24 pm 
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Ok let me get this straight..
Has this club hired and fired the last three coaches they have had before the end of their allotted contacts? Or is it four?
Are we supposed to take them seriously?
This has all the hallmarks of a dysfunctional club as I keep saying

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:29 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Ok let me get this straight..
Has this club hired and fired the last three coaches they have had before the end of their allotted contacts? Or is it four?
Are we supposed to take them seriously?
This has all the hallmarks of a dysfunctional club as I keep saying


In the history of any club, what percentage of coaches have gone out under their own terms or actually completed contracts?


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:29 pm 
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I'd have sacked him today... Then I'd sack the board and myself..
It's called morality and scruples integrity honesty etc.

How do they sack all the guys they instate themselves and continue to dodge responsibility..

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:30 pm 
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That'd be the case with most clubs, I would've thought.

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Just think this through logically.

If team MLG seriously need the 2 matches to decide if Micks the man for the next 5 years then just turn off the lights shut the door.

Logically, the decisions been made and he's sakced.

Mick just walk away now and don't continue this charade.


Logically MM may have asked for some time to work out an exit strategy in 2 weeks or the end of the year...based on what we know

and logically the Board can decide if they like it or not.

Theres a lot of emotion running hhot by fans members board members players coaches....nt much room for logic.

Time for cool heads to prevail.

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:33 pm 
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chelodina wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Ok let me get this straight..
Has this club hired and fired the last three coaches they have had before the end of their allotted contacts? Or is it four?
Are we supposed to take them seriously?
This has all the hallmarks of a dysfunctional club as I keep saying


In the history of any club, what percentage of coaches have gone out under their own terms or actually completed contracts?

You mean at crap clubs?
Where it's a passing parade of sscked coaches work crap records.. Solicited for employment by boards who hire and sack?
Many.. Many coaches...
Crap clubs always have a passing parade of coaches.. Hired and sacked early..

Think about the flag winning coaches in strong clubs during the last decade... Not that many..
Then look at the bottom of the ladder

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:34 pm 
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It's OK sacking Mick.. But who's going to take responsibility for all this?

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:34 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
It's OK sacking Mick.. But who's going to take responsibility for all this?


Sticks


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:36 pm 
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chelodina wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Ok let me get this straight..
Has this club hired and fired the last three coaches they have had before the end of their allotted contacts? Or is it four?
Are we supposed to take them seriously?
This has all the hallmarks of a dysfunctional club as I keep saying


In the history of any club, what percentage of coaches have gone out under their own terms or actually completed contracts?

A very salient point, difference is most clubs can always fall back on a thorough process. Ours is not one of those.

I can see things changing at the club, there is absolutely no way that will happen this time. Culturally, so many things are different. Many don't want to look at the minute detail, and many will shout me down but there are clear areas that historically just didn't happen

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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:36 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
chelodina wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Ok let me get this straight..
Has this club hired and fired the last three coaches they have had before the end of their allotted contacts? Or is it four?
Are we supposed to take them seriously?
This has all the hallmarks of a dysfunctional club as I keep saying


In the history of any club, what percentage of coaches have gone out under their own terms or actually completed contracts?

You mean at crap clubs?
Where it's a passing parade of sscked coaches work crap records.. Solicited for employment by boards who hire and sack?
Many.. Many coaches...
Crap clubs always have a passing parade of coaches.. Hired and sacked early..

Think about the flag winning coaches in strong clubs during the last decade... Not that many..
Then look at the bottom of the ladder


Nah even premiership winning coaches have a use by date... This era, they call it a 'managed succession plan'


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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:38 pm 
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How many 'straw men' does this board have up it's sleeve?

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