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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 6:41 am 
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I am of the mind to question the use of the word coaching.


What about koaching?
More authentic...therefore harder to question :smile:


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:25 am 
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White must be close too, he'd be a soild addtionan to the midfield works hard good size and versatile.
Things should get better as the weeks progress we'll a few weeks at least.
Games will remain very difficult to win but at least we'll the satisfaction to see a balanced team with the Krooz leading the charge. The lad will make huge difference, can't wait to see him playing with confidence again.
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People forget the Krooz was pretty ordinary before he got injured. He showed no capacity as a key position forward.

He will need time, he is not an established player yet. He won't be the panacea this year


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:34 am 
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Yeah I agree with the turtle.
Can't expect kreuzer to lead any charge.. It's a long way back.
If he does it's certainly a bonus for the club and himself.
One thing is for sure.. He won't leave anything in the dressing room

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:55 am 
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kreuzer. for his season to be a success he has to finish it healthy.

nothing more. expecting anything from him will be fools gold. just get 15 games under his belt and a whole preseason and reload for 2016.

that's his best case scenario, imo.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:06 am 
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:26 am 
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Anybody want Tuohy dropped as much as I do?
He seriously gets beaten every week, either dropped or at least try him at half forward.

Also any thoughts on playing Warnock instead of Wood?


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:26 am 
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Totally agree braithy.
Special k needs this year under his belt on the ground.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:30 am 
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Time to put the heat on Yarran. He became a good solid player last year, but now is the time or him to really step up.

Time to play him in the midfield. We need some run and creativity in there. His start to the year has been very ordinary


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:35 am 
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But he's on the trade table too...
These players don't have incentive... It was withdrawn round two

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:36 am 
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In order to success you must believe..

Simple

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:44 am 
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Synbad wrote:
But he's on the trade table too...
These players don't have incentive... It was withdrawn round two



He was ordinary in round 1 too....

Nah I don't buy this lack of incentive BS. It is a professional game. Play for extra 0s on your next contract if you have to.

The soft underbelly of gibbs and Murphy has always been there.... They just can't hide behind Judd anymore. Nothing to do with round 2

Re Kreuzer, he needs to play AFL, regardless of fitness


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:46 am 
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Synbad wrote:
In order to success you must believe..

Simple

It took you a little while to latch onto that
The moment he said it
I posted here it was a dumb thing to say.
I always say you become the product of your environment.
If everyone from President to boot studder down are saying we have the worst list and need to rebuild.
They are telling the players you are shit and we are going to get rid of you.
Players latch onto that pretty quickly the lose all desire to be there and start exploring options elsewhere.
I hate the term list it means nothing they should come out and say what they really mean.
The players are shit.
But my thoughts are the players are not shit they are being given the wrong instructions and wrong direction on top of being told they are shit.
And it all stems from the man who is in self protection mode

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:51 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Synbad wrote:
In order to success you must believe..

Simple

It took you a little while to latch onto that
The moment he said it
I posted here it was a dumb thing to say.
I always say you become the product of your environment.
If everyone from President to boot studder down are saying we have the worst list and need to rebuild.
They are telling the players you are shit and we are going to get rid of you.
Players latch onto that pretty quickly the lose all desire to be there and start exploring options elsewhere.
I hate the term list it means nothing they should come out and say what they really mean.
The players are shit.
But my thoughts are the players are not shit they are being given the wrong instructions and wrong direction on top of being told they are shit.
And it all stems from the man who is in self protection mode


No problem telling supporters (and players) the truth. That sentiment should piss players off and they should transfer that energy into sticking it up the prez. They are simply confirming what he said if this is the case.

Let's truly bottom out and move on the sooks. Change will occur more rapidly that way.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:54 am 
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Ctrain wrote:
Anybody want Tuohy dropped as much as I do?
He seriously gets beaten every week, either dropped or at least try him at half forward.

Also any thoughts on playing Warnock instead of Wood?

You can't blame an individual defender any more if they're left 1v1 all the time. Only the absolute best defenders could be a chance to stop everything that comes their way in that situation. I don't blame our individual defenders, I blame the system and its execution that has the midfield applying virtually no pressure.

Warnock is a spud who gets 5 more hitouts and does nothing with any of them. Can't run or apply pressure.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 9:56 am 
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chelodina wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Synbad wrote:
In order to success you must believe..

Simple

It took you a little while to latch onto that
The moment he said it
I posted here it was a dumb thing to say.
I always say you become the product of your environment.
If everyone from President to boot studder down are saying we have the worst list and need to rebuild.
They are telling the players you are shit and we are going to get rid of you.
Players latch onto that pretty quickly the lose all desire to be there and start exploring options elsewhere.
I hate the term list it means nothing they should come out and say what they really mean.
The players are shit.
But my thoughts are the players are not shit they are being given the wrong instructions and wrong direction on top of being told they are shit.
And it all stems from the man who is in self protection mode


No problem telling supporters (and players) the truth. That sentiment should piss players off and they should transfer that energy into sticking it up the prez. They are simply confirming what he said if this is the case.

Let's truly bottom out and move on the sooks. Change will occur more rapidly that way.

So your kid fails a test at school do you go in and call him a stupid idiot or do you try and help them. If the kid is studying Hamlet and the test is on Macbeth. Do you tell them they are useless for failing
You keep calling someone stupid and they become stupid its human nature

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 10:27 am 
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touhy's ok. he has a dig and one on one does a good job more than he doesn't.

winning the ball at carlton means looking up and seeing nothing and racking up another turnover. hell, even on kick-ins touhy looks up and not one single blue jersey is moving. they're witches hats.


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and totally in agreement with the belief philosophy. all throughout the history of sports – even war & battle, it's littered with stories of david beating goliath, overcomming massive odds, miracles on ice etc etc all because a group of people came together and believed in themselves as a team. somebody instilled belief into them and they went on to make history.

a good team beats a great team of players every day of the week.


dogs, port, eagles all play with a undying belief.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:47 am 
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Yeah but you're looking at two weeks from a twenty two series season in isolation.
That's hardly a worthy sample.
Remember..
Were not pretending we are contenders.
But in a season where there's not much between twelve clubs it was too early to call.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:48 am 
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Actually it was remarkable in its stupidity to pull the pin on the season at that stage...

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:08 pm 
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May be they threw in the towel , because there're after Weitering and a strong hand in trade week it's the only logical conclusion.
Mick certainly has a huge challenge on his plate, given the media hysteria and uncertainty must be very unsettling for established and young players alike.
Sad state of affairs for our mighty club , let's hope a better team balance will redeem the situation soon.
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:14 pm 
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imagine if malthouse lets yarran walk. along with betts, garlett and to some degree waite. that's alotta talent shown the door, only to be replaced by spuds like jones, tutt and whiley.


at that point you'd almost buy into the whole conspiracy Eddie McChins sent malthouse here to burn the place down from the inside out.


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