Is this some kind of abuse from you to me?
I'll call you 'Bull Collins'... The not so accurate one...

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I wasn't wearing a moderator hat for any other purpose than to defend my fellow moderators as independent thinkers to myself, case in point.

I have zero problems with the summation of Synbad's posts when he is on-topic, however, I've watched him go off-topic a lot over the last 10 years.

This whole exchange started because I found it difficult to believe we would put such a simple clause into a contract. Personally I think having a pre-organised severance package is a good thing to have for executives and for football-related contracts. A lot of what is done in a football department and in a football club is swagger, ego with a sprinkle of ingenuity. If they run out of some of those ingredients, they become useless pretty quick.

Look no further than association football to see they set the standard for this, and it's a growing trend for executives across all industries. I just hope it's not as simple as Synners' makes it out to be.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

the mod hat comment was in jest at myself

but i dont want to add to the melodrama anymore

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Relax funny boy.

Don't take life so seriously.

I said its great to have you back.

I complement you on your knowledge of Greek drama & history.

I also reckon you are a little inexperienced when it comes to real world issues. It's ok, you'll learn, keep up and you may even understand what's going on. Pay attention, there's lots to be learned & for someone like you, with an obvious thirst for knowledge, one day you'll succeed. See, it's easy.

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what positives are in place at the moment re; the board/carlton OR?

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Oh so SOS comes in words up his mate nekminit Rogers is gone.. But paid out his six months.
That's because RollDaDice signed him up after his failed raid on hawthorn.
The president is not the most subtle of thinkers.. He's an oaf... Proving himself to be quite a baffoon.. Conducting himself with all the elegance of an elephant outdoors on a sunny day sipping Darjeeling in your grannies finest china..

Are you picturing that?

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Yes, it hangs right next to the sword of the Pokies King,

in the hidden cupboard, under the boardroom.

best not to mention the sword cupboard.

after all, it's a sword point for them.

all power, and no responsibility.

that's gaffa taped over men sana in corpore sano.

not sure who did that,
but I saw geoffrey with a big box of crayons and a guilty look.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Amateur.

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Yes mark is... OR.. thank you!

What was hilarious is that people thought this was about Mick.
Mick might be crap.. Even though at every club except ours he had teams working together. Issues average players.. But it's not about Mick.
Players aren't in a good environment.
The club has not provided an environment of excellence.
Sure Mick is part of that.. But the underlying fundamental problems have been a couple of decades in the making

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OR,
I reckon lots of us would like to know if the Board in any way feels responsible for the great big mess that is now our club?
would any of them fall on their swords so to speak?

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

GOLD!

Thanks for the laugh, this is an interesting thread, with serious issues, so the humor is appreciated.

You need to pay greater attention funny boy,

There's lots to be learned.

So little to do and So much time.

They'd eat you for breakfast at this stage, funny boy.

Keep trying, one day you'll be ok and will be able to step up AND speak your views in the real world.


So much time & so little to do.

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Jimmy why don't you get on your hotline to the president and ask him about contacts at Carlton..
What contract is trigg on and what happened to Rogers
Rogers for a six month pay out.. Trigg would get the same..

They don't even have faith in their own appointments.
So it's important to get a feel for this situation.
Who in their right mind would come to this club?
Rogers was signed and moved on...
Coaches have no security
Players are all on the auction block...

Bizarre time in a bizarre decade and a half in the history of the Carlton football club.

And don't forget they asked the afl to forward funds. Caro reported it as a 5 figure sum... I hear it was 120k

Billionaires on the board
RollDaDice says to everybody he wasn't part of the previous admins decisions and yet he's been on the board four or five years.. A board that unanimously voted in sticks.
I'm not sure what you blokes understand about the word unanimously.. But to me it means they all voted for him year after year. Till this one time.. He did something wrong? So they as a unanimous group took him out back and emptied both barrels of a shotty in his head..
Oh that's board unity right there!

So do you think something that sticks did they didn't like.. Our they had to take him Apocalypto and have Sticks sacrificed so the sun comes up tomorrow?

Geeez I dunno


That's the sign of a ripper board right there.
Directors give direction.

What's our direction with all this chop and change?

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Hey BG & Grro,

Like all groups of people there are mixed reactions to what's going on. Some are in denial, some are working towards change, others are working theirs arses off to regain what we had.

None are stupid.

None want nor strive for failure.

None want, nor benefit from mediocrity nor from being under performers. Yes they all have egos, but that can help in leading to success.

They are all successful people in certain fields including management and leadership.

It's now a question of can they be harnessed to bring success to what is clearly a very desperate club.

Regards,

OR

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OR by this point in time.. I just know you have everybody feeling foolish and stupid for even knowing of you...

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The thing is - there is little real insider knowledge around here. However, that should not stifle debate.

I personally agree with with many of the criticisms of the Board and agree we need many of them to take responsibility for the last 10+ years and fall on their swords. I don't think the clause re vetting of Board candidates could stop serious people if they wanted to challenge.

I don't think the admin is as bad as many people make it. There have been quite a few changes for the better: The GM membership etc. is on the way out, the new commercial head honcho is a sharp operator, Trigg is far better then Swann, the head of digital / brand etc is good etc. The introduction of real long term list management is a big leap from the disaster zone recruiting has been. Jury is still out on the football department. Not sure about the Vet, don't think we are strong enough on the development side etc.

Key issue is that the admin and football department are dependent on the Board showing the right leadership and clear direction. I give credit to the Judge for many of the positive admin changes, but he does lack communication skills, consistency and charisma. He still uses the "back to where we belong" mantra and by this shows he lacks a certain understanding of where the club is and how the AFL has changed and the business of sport as such.

What we really need is a visionary charismatic leader with a small Board that could take the admin and the supporters with him on a journey. That's where we are missing out and I can not see anyone at the moment.

I do not believe the "burn down the place" crowd will do any good. Actually the pressure of money issues might just prolong the overly strong influence of certain factions and lead to knee jerk actions.

I still love the club and always will. I see the frustrations lead some people to wish bad upon the club. Be careful what you wish for. Talk to some Fitzroy supporters before you join the "fetch the pitchforks and torches" faction. The sad reality is that we easily can loose the club for ever.

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

Mikkey, rumour has it Fitzroy knocked us off on Sunday.

Insightful.. Let me read and re read this a few times to let it sink in....

You know what you remind me of?

A horoscope writer.. Sorry you just do..

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So much time, so little to do.

White noise.

Step up, bring your expertise and real world experience to the board.

So little to do, so much time.

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Sorry.. Were pathetic
That's point one
Point two is better means better than really really shithouse... But when you need to measure better up against excellence or can be really really shithouse again.

There is nothing to suggest we're making up ground but much to suggest we ate digging ourselves a deeper grave.

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