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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:28 pm 
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People like trigg and Rogers have a six month paying out clause.
So effectively even though they're signed for three years my board sources tell me they get a six month severance.
Incredible... Because even though they think it's clever it exposes that even they themselves don't believe in the appointments. So they have a severence clause.
Just goes to show how desperate trigg was for a job.. And the second thing is.. Who the hell that's any good will come to that kind of appointment... And even though you might decide to make an exception... What's that say about consistency and direction. Chop change and all over the place.
Yeah I have an agenda.. I want to see this club cleansed of amateurism... Mediocrity... Oligarchic activities and having it ground into dust by idiots.
Trigg and RollTheDice not only had no clue where this club was at preseason. Round two they announced the rebuild..
But they came up with a plan on heading members at the pass by changing the club constitution to suit the status quo
To me is speaks volumes about their focus

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:29 pm 
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The prez has to go. Can't make decisions in the best interest of the club. At least sticks made a decision in the best interest of the club and brought mick in to take us to a flag. Yeah it back fired, but at least he had the balls to make the decision.

This prez is an fwit. Comes out strong saying malthouse will be safe until end of year. A few more bad gate attendances and he will have to pull the trigger. Our schedule just gets harder from here . just such a stupid statement. Has he got his ass stuck so far up mm's ass or what. Come out and say you are at least not extending his contract.

What l hate most out of all this crap is l am starting to lose the love for the club. In the pagan yrs At least we had direction, at least we knew we were tanking, at least we could enjoy watching the young players develop. In this climate we have a mofo running the club in the ground and the board dont have the balls to stop the rot. flower disgraceful. How bad do the players have to play to get rid of their coach.

Someome put up a ticket pls. I am sure you get voted in. I would vote for synbad even.


Agreed, a rival ticket is needed.
But how to get one totally independent of Pratts, Mathisens, Elliotts etc.
As for us having direction in the
Pagan years, don't know which team you supported, but the Carlton I remember during the Pagan years was far far worse then where we are now, both on and off the field.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:31 pm 
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Ok, so let's clean out the Board.

Who is taking over?
What is the plan that turns the club around?
Who has the connections to still bring money into the club to prop it up?

I hazard a bet that anyone remotely interested would be tied into a benefactor anyway.


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:37 pm 
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They will be tied to the benefactors... Which is why the best way to deal with them is to stave them of oxygen.
After RollTheDice gets his throat slashed.. A new guy will be invited on if the next guy is from outside.
What needs to happen is anybody invited on must be rejected from the fans/ supporters.
It's just now smoke and mirrors but the song remains the same..

A Harold Mitchell or a Jeff Kennett type of clearskin with no ties to the factions must be the kinds of people we can look at
No Elliott people
No Pratt's and friends
No mathiesons.

If they promote anybody people must be aware and automatically reject.
If they love the club they will after the new appointment throw their support behind any clearskin

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:38 pm 
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We all know that's not going to happen anytime soon
So the best thing people can do is turn their back on these people.
They think it's their club let them deal with our without us.
It's our club....! Not theirs

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:42 pm 
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i discovered this site during the botched pagan sacking in august 2006.

almost 10 years on and we're still so messed up.

unbelievable. disgusting.


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:49 pm 
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Dominator_7 wrote:
Goltzenberg wrote:
The prez has to go. Can't make decisions in the best interest of the club. At least sticks made a decision in the best interest of the club and brought mick in to take us to a flag. Yeah it back fired, but at least he had the balls to make the decision.

This prez is an fwit. Comes out strong saying malthouse will be safe until end of year. A few more bad gate attendances and he will have to pull the trigger. Our schedule just gets harder from here . just such a stupid statement. Has he got his ass stuck so far up mm's ass or what. Come out and say you are at least not extending his contract.

What l hate most out of all this crap is l am starting to lose the love for the club. In the pagan yrs At least we had direction, at least we knew we were tanking, at least we could enjoy watching the young players develop. In this climate we have a mofo running the club in the ground and the board dont have the balls to stop the rot. flower disgraceful. How bad do the players have to play to get rid of their coach.

Someome put up a ticket pls. I am sure you get voted in. I would vote for synbad even.


Agreed, a rival ticket is needed.
But how to get one totally independent of Pratts, Mathisens, Elliotts etc.
As for us having direction in the
Pagan years, don't know which team you supported, but the Carlton I remember during the Pagan years was far far worse then where we are now, both on and off the field.

Yeah but we knew we were sh1t and were in a rebuild. This group right now is playing well under their ability as a team. Did losing waite, garlett, robbo, brock really make that much of a difference to our team. I remember we were quite competitive in the 2nd half of last yr. This yr we are a complete different team. I can handle losing, but not this way.

SynBad - if you know board members are they behind malthouse? Or views divided?


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:49 pm 
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So anybody got a copy of the most current constitution? (If it exists)

Anyone know a clean skin lawyer to expose the holes in the board electing process?

Anyone prepared to stand up and facilitate a phoenix like campaign?

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:50 pm 
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When I say no mathiesons no pratts no Elliotts .. You're eliminating ninety percent of people who in the surface are eligible... But one hundred percent of people who have no chance of turning things around.

I saw RollTheDice on the news in damage control.
I also saw two former number one picks in a very uncomfortable position for footballers.
They're on the news not for football reasons but for football club damage control reasons.
That's unacceptable...
Andrew McKay grow some balls!
Last year Bryce Gibbs asked the club for its plan going forward.
The club have him a flowery plan .. The usual .. We've heard them all too!
20 by 2020 ... 5 flags in 3 years etc

Now after round two when anything can happen.. ( st kilda over the dogs) this club has ripped away every incentive for every player and every coach in round 2.
Any wonder the club is being flushed down the toilet?
Is this leadership from President RollTheDice and I get 6 months severence trigg!

Joke!

Do you all know the story of ' the sword of damokles" ?
Thats not how you manage...

Joke!

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:55 pm 
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Synners is spot on ... I don't think our supporters truly understand how stuffed the club is. These guys have no clue but they want total control ... They won't back down ... So this isn't going to turn around any time soon or if at all. My sources tell me the powers to be have some big plans ... Unfortunately this hole is only going to get deeper ... But as Synners said time for them to do it on their own and without the supporters ...


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:57 pm 
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DoublebluMots2 wrote:
So anybody got a copy of the most current constitution? (If it exists)

Anyone know a clean skin lawyer to expose the holes in the board electing process?

Anyone prepared to stand up and facilitate a phoenix like campaign?

Were not at that point yet.
However.. The club is bleeding financially...
They know that they have lost so many...
Won't be long before they're at Afl house again cap in hand..
The billionaires have already had 120k brought forward.. Money they won't receive later...

This year will be a massive loss... The back of a massive list last year...
But hold on
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They're billionaires...!

You see... They can't do it without us
.. Even though they think they can.
Let them bankroll the entire club alone!
I'm unfair?
Why?

What makes them think the club belongs to them now than to me.?
As proven


There's an army of me...
They're just a few..
Clubs are not made up of the few but the many..

Starve then of oxygen! The alternative is that are starving my club of oxygen and blaming the apathetic like me

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:58 pm 
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They will continue to bring in their puppets ... As long as they have control ... If only some of u knew what there next lot of plans are ... Club is stuffed ...


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:59 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
People like trigg and Rogers have a six month paying out clause.
So effectively even though they're signed for three years my board sources tell me they get a six month severance.
Incredible... Because even though they think it's clever it exposes that even they themselves don't believe in the appointments. So they have a severence clause.

I seriously doubt their severance pay clause (which exist in all contracts in some form) is as rigid as your wording.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:04 pm 
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They dare you to boycott the club by turning the club into a virtual shield.
In my opinion we boycott the games and allow them to see where they're at from their ivory towers...
Keep going and we will become a Richmond.
We need a clean break.. Away from the shackles of these people.
Nobody walked along side of Mick on his record breaking game..
Like him or hate him

He is our coach.. Nobody from this club wanted to be seen with him... Bad publicity..
How pathetic and cowardly!
What a weak and cowardly excuse for a football club.
The only person who wanted to be seen with Mick was the media whore edelsten. He paid around 25k for the privilege

Shameful!
Totally devoid of character.. Soulless
.. Pathetic excuse for human beings.. And directors of this football club

The same people that work gusto headhunted him now abandoned him on what is the vfl/afls most incredible feat for any coach in history.

The players don't want to play for a club with no soul

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:05 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
Synbad wrote:
People like trigg and Rogers have a six month paying out clause.
So effectively even though they're signed for three years my board sources tell me they get a six month severance.
Incredible... Because even though they think it's clever it exposes that even they themselves don't believe in the appointments. So they have a severence clause.

I seriously doubt their severance pay clause (which exist in all contracts in some form) is as rigid as your wording.

Go ask your master to give his word it's not... And come back

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:06 pm 
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Boycott the club for the good of the club..
These people need to be exposed.

It's happening anyway...

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:11 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
jimmae wrote:
Synbad wrote:
People like trigg and Rogers have a six month paying out clause.
So effectively even though they're signed for three years my board sources tell me they get a six month severance.
Incredible... Because even though they think it's clever it exposes that even they themselves don't believe in the appointments. So they have a severence clause.

I seriously doubt their severance pay clause (which exist in all contracts in some form) is as rigid as your wording.

Go ask your master to give his word it's not... And come back

Get off your own gear for a day, and realise how this reads like a manifesto rather than a call to arms.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:31 pm 
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What kind of manifesto Jim!
Explain exactly...

I know your had me banned for a couple of weeks..
The guy that drew the short straw said " I dominate the forum "
So you dropped Alex jesaulenko for the Kane Lucas types did you?
Now explain about my "manifesto.. "
I'm interested in this.. So go ahead

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:31 pm 
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Cool Runnings wrote:
Synners is spot on ... I don't think our supporters truly understand how stuffed the club is. These guys have no clue but they want total control ... They won't back down ... So this isn't going to turn around any time soon or if at all. My sources tell me the powers to be have some big plans ... Unfortunately this hole is only going to get deeper ... But as Synners said time for them to do it on their own and without the supporters ...


Supporters already don't care. How many of us don't put money into memberships these days? Plenty is the answer.

All I hear is how much the club is stuffed. What does that mean in real terms?


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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 7:32 pm 
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Yep only way to possibly get something happening, is to not go to games.

Don't know what we members can do anymore?

We use to vote and have a say, but not now.

I love this club so much and as much as I swear not to go, I rocked up to watch that shit full game of yesterday.

But I think we have too. Just watch it at home via other means, but protest against going till they do something.


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