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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 10:51 am 
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I haven't posted for quite some time.
The Essada debacle and our performances have given me the shits

I held off renewing 4, 15 year memberships this season. After last night I no longer feel guilty for doing so.
I have a Sportsbet account and regularily bet against us, and am happy when we lose, as its easy money... and that is @#$%&! WRONG!!!

It looked like our whole team was on the punt last night

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 10:52 am 
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pinnell wrote:
Cripps 6 tackles.

Gibbs (0!! F8cking ZERO) + Walker (one) + Murphy (two) + Judd (2) = FIVE tackles between them!

DISGRACE!


That about sums it up. :banghead:

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 10:56 am 
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GWS wrote:
First game I've attended this year. It was a pretty good night. Weather was lovely, good seat, the company of Moshe and the lovely Sarah and the dimmies weren't too bad.

Just a pity about the football.

...


Not sure when my next game will be.

My first game, too. I left my $405 ticket with my mate in the third quarter and wandered home. Not sure what he did with it. Don't care.

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 10:57 am 
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choo wrote:
Collingwood had 7 first round draft picks missing last night. And They're not top 4.

A lot was made about them having 12 players with less than 50 games
We had 9
Still no excuse they all do their job and they know what that job is

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:06 am 
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redback wrote:
Drewgirl wrote:
You can only work so hard to look into your forward line and see no one there. Or you being stuck on the boundary line only to see it go back the the opposition down the centre. You would enjoy being a Backman for Carlton. Or how about a forward who is told to constantly push up then run out of puff running back only to have the ball kicked on his head.

How about a coach who has ripped the flair out of the team. Walker being sent back, Simmo being sent back. Getting rid of three of our leading goalkickers.

How about the 5 taggers we play in a game? Fancy Whileys first game, being asked to tag Pendulbury?

Do you want more? Would you not be a frustrated player?



well done drewgirl
some here don't get it
WTF would want to input the effort and hurt when they know it's futile
the game plan is ridiculous and ineffective
it doesn't matter who you have at your disposal the game doesn't give us a chance at posting a competitive score
it takes a lot out of wasted energy and a lot out of your body
3 years off crap that can't get us past the centre and if we do we are outnumbered and open for a counter attack
brilliant coaching

But , but
They are playing for the coach!
They love rhe coach!
See how they busted a gut for him last nite?
:|

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:09 am 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
redback wrote:
Drewgirl wrote:
You can only work so hard to look into your forward line and see no one there. Or you being stuck on the boundary line only to see it go back the the opposition down the centre. You would enjoy being a Backman for Carlton. Or how about a forward who is told to constantly push up then run out of puff running back only to have the ball kicked on his head.

How about a coach who has ripped the flair out of the team. Walker being sent back, Simmo being sent back. Getting rid of three of our leading goalkickers.

How about the 5 taggers we play in a game? Fancy Whileys first game, being asked to tag Pendulbury?

Do you want more? Would you not be a frustrated player?



well done drewgirl
some here don't get it
WTF would want to input the effort and hurt when they know it's futile
the game plan is ridiculous and ineffective
it doesn't matter who you have at your disposal the game doesn't give us a chance at posting a competitive score
it takes a lot out of wasted energy and a lot out of your body
3 years off crap that can't get us past the centre and if we do we are outnumbered and open for a counter attack
brilliant coaching


They are playing for the coach!
They love rhe coach!
:|


That might be true, but if you don't play for each other then the coach is irrelevant.


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:23 am 
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So, out of 20 quarters of footy this year, we've played about 5 decent ones.

And really, that's been against only so-so teams.

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:31 am 
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AGRO wrote:
jimmae wrote:
Pafloyul wrote:
I may have left a few players out, our picks might have been 1 and 4, not 1 and 3. Anyway, "everyone" might mean all of the top recruits but I do remember a few dissenting voices around at the time. The fact that Collingwood reached and got good service (more than good in Pendlebury's case) out of their players just shows you that you don't always have to go with consensus. That's not how it works.

That's fair to say, but if you're referring to forum posters that's not much anecdotal evidence to support the idea what all 16 clubs (at the time) would have done with Pick 1. The word was Murphy.

We've gotten great service out of Murphy, he is/was a worthy number 1 selection.

grrofunger wrote:
i think everyone has a right to vent and rant - we have been taken for a ride and left stranded knee deep in shit

sold a joke from a bunch of frauds and wasted our time, money and effort on this football club

Yup, and I have a right to ask questions of what's being said and offer discussion points.

They're two of several fair responses to that kind of performance. I'm not ridiculing anyone in this thread, but I am being ridiculed for not wanting to light an effigy and start a riot.



I'd like to actually tell you why you are being ridiculed.

Maybe you'd like to take your hat off first Sarge. :wink:

:lol:

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:34 am 
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GWS wrote:
First game I've attended this year. It was a pretty good night. Weather was lovely, good seat, the company of Moshe and the lovely Sarah and the dimmies weren't too bad.

Just a pity about the football.

And the lack of effort of our players.

And the @#$%&! idiot with the microphone at the breaks.

And the flower wrestler wanker doing ads for something that has nothing to do with the football.

And the stupid competitions.

And the fact that it was harder to talk to your friends during the breaks than the actual game.

And the lack of atmosphere.

And "BongoCam".

And the contrived nature of every single moment that didn't directly involve the football.

Not sure when my next game will be.

:clap: Yep. I think the best bit about your night was the company...... and even that wasn't so flash.... :grin:

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:36 am 
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As a combined effort that was the worst coaching exhibition and worst playing exhibition imaginable. We've played our best footy under MM when we've had a positive game plan, number more forward of the ball hence allow some run deep into the 50. like late last year. That way we have options, with run we create space meaning skills are better. With more numbers forward we can apply alot more pressure in our forward 50. I know it was St.Kilda last week but we did that and duly got the rewards with run and pressure in our forward 50.

I still remember the last qtr, murphy get the ball and running, looking up from the half back flanl and actually saw nothing in front of him. Like WTF is that game plan. It's not an excuse, and never should be, but no wonder players get demoralised and give up. good coaches coach to the players strengths.

Ratten did well at Carlton because he had a game plan that played to our strengths, even with an average list. There were flaws in it but at least the players were committed, happy with it and payed for each other. That's always the start.


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:37 am 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
redback wrote:
Drewgirl wrote:
You can only work so hard to look into your forward line and see no one there. Or you being stuck on the boundary line only to see it go back the the opposition down the centre. You would enjoy being a Backman for Carlton. Or how about a forward who is told to constantly push up then run out of puff running back only to have the ball kicked on his head.

How about a coach who has ripped the flair out of the team. Walker being sent back, Simmo being sent back. Getting rid of three of our leading goalkickers.

How about the 5 taggers we play in a game? Fancy Whileys first game, being asked to tag Pendulbury?

Do you want more? Would you not be a frustrated player?



well done drewgirl
some here don't get it
WTF would want to input the effort and hurt when they know it's futile
the game plan is ridiculous and ineffective
it doesn't matter who you have at your disposal the game doesn't give us a chance at posting a competitive score
it takes a lot out of wasted energy and a lot out of your body
3 years off crap that can't get us past the centre and if we do we are outnumbered and open for a counter attack
brilliant coaching

But , but
They are playing for the coach!
They love rhe coach!
See how they busted a gut for him last nite?
:|

How about they bust a gut for us, the deluded souls that week in week out make the effort both financially and mentally to support these selfish pretenders?

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:40 am 
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jim wrote:
Ratten did well at Carlton because he had a game plan that played to our strengths, even with an average list. There were flaws in it but at least the players were committed, happy with it and payed for each other. That's always the start.


Very good point. I get the feeling that he is trying to get us to do things in which we simply aren't capable. Ratten did just let us run. IMO would never have won a flag or developed a better list but he did play them to their strengths.

Malthouse has tried to develop a harder more defensive edge and our group simply hasn't handled it.

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:45 am 
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ThePsychologist wrote:

Malthouse has tried to develop a harder more defensive edge and our group simply hasn't handled it.




and at this point, this is where MM's stubbornness and set in his ways attitude, is his final downfall.


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:46 am 
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So, was anyone here lucky enough to be sitting in M15 Row E?

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:50 am 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
jim wrote:
Ratten did well at Carlton because he had a game plan that played to our strengths, even with an average list. There were flaws in it but at least the players were committed, happy with it and payed for each other. That's always the start.


Very good point. I get the feeling that he is trying to get us to do things in which we simply aren't capable. Ratten did just let us run. IMO would never have won a flag or developed a better list but he did play them to their strengths.

Malthouse has tried to develop a harder more defensive edge and our group simply hasn't handled it.


Yes, and even if he never would won a flag you set the stage for the right coach to go the next step. Hinkley would've been a coach that would've suited us no end. play a side to their strengths and you're at least half way there.

When Malhouse has left us run and play a more positive game plan we are an entirely different side. We've seen that many times like late last season on in games over 3 years where he's just thrown caution to the wind and said just run. When that's happened he's transformed the side instantaneously, hence some of the great come from behind fightbacks.


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:51 am 
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bluedog wrote:
So, was anyone here lucky enough to be sitting in M15 Row E?

All I could think was how lucky it was the fireworks went off at that exact location. Amazing coincidence.

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:54 am 
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jimmae wrote:
Blue Beatle wrote:
Stone Free wrote:
Pendles wins best on ground, where was our captain? Shit, even in Melbourne's darkest hours at least Nathan Jones gave his all.

Never forget we picked murphy at 1 and pies picked pendlebury at 2 - says it all

Thomas was picked #2.

Anyone would have picked Murphy in that draft.


So we have:
3 players from Pick #1
2 players from Pick #2
1 players from Pick #3

We under the most under achieved club in the league.
Boy did we [REDACTED] up bad!


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:55 am 
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Blueboy_Dan wrote:
Gibbs should be dropped for weeks the same way Geelong did to Steve Johnson all those years ago.


Been saying that during his development years under Ratten.
But Ratts never dropped him.


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 11:55 am 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
redback wrote:
Drewgirl wrote:
You can only work so hard to look into your forward line and see no one there. Or you being stuck on the boundary line only to see it go back the the opposition down the centre. You would enjoy being a Backman for Carlton. Or how about a forward who is told to constantly push up then run out of puff running back only to have the ball kicked on his head.

How about a coach who has ripped the flair out of the team. Walker being sent back, Simmo being sent back. Getting rid of three of our leading goalkickers.

How about the 5 taggers we play in a game? Fancy Whileys first game, being asked to tag Pendulbury?

Do you want more? Would you not be a frustrated player?



well done drewgirl
some here don't get it
WTF would want to input the effort and hurt when they know it's futile
the game plan is ridiculous and ineffective
it doesn't matter who you have at your disposal the game doesn't give us a chance at posting a competitive score
it takes a lot out of wasted energy and a lot out of your body
3 years off crap that can't get us past the centre and if we do we are outnumbered and open for a counter attack
brilliant coaching

But , but
They are playing for the coach!
They love rhe coach!
See how they busted a gut for him last nite?
:|


I mentioned this elsewhere, if I was Ellard, Rowe, Curnow, Bell, Wood, Warnock, Whiley, Everitt, Jones, Tutt and Dick I'd love the coach too, MM is keeping them employed where 17 other clubs wouldn't.


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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 12:11 pm 
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The club does not get it. These fireworks and lights really give me the shits. I wounding give a flying toss about all the hooha.

All I want is improvement and players cracking in busting there guts.

All talk. Our coach takes no responsibility. He is lost, does not know what to do anymore. BUT he is a stubborn old man, and would never give up, and that is a worry cause we are stuck with him till at least to the end of the year.

Our president seems stubborn too, as he does not want to admit he was part of a wrong decision to get Malthouse, so he comes out and says 'we honour contract here'. What a load of s{}^!

I am ropable with this club right now, more so than the Crappy crappy Pagan years, as i don't how we can fix this without really getting rid of everyone, from board, to coaches and some of these lazy players we have bottomed out for. Looking at you Gibbs, Murphy, Walker.

For the champion that Judd is and I admire him so much. Even he does not bother to tackle and run both ways. Nonone should be exempt here, and we have many many passengers.

The c,us fed us a bunch of bullshit in the off season, and I am finally sick of it.

Last night there was no atmosphere at the game, despite all the light extravaganza. I just don't get the excited butterflies before a game anymore.

They are insipid,and lack the pride I associate with this once great club. A shell.

GWS, Melbourne, Bulldogs and St Kilda will or are already past us.

We are at the lowest ebe possible. Maybe it's a good thing, someone has to care to do something.

Right?


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