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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:15 pm 
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We didn't capitalise despite having enough of the ball. We didn't put any heat on the scoreboard.


Sack malthouse


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The boys were honest at least.



you're going to hell for this.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:16 pm 
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I don't think we need to sack the coach, nor do we need to gut out our list.

Today, and the last two games are the direct result of years of mismanagement and terrible decisions, starting from the boardroom down. This is the reason for today's display on the MCG, and sacking the coach, or gutting out the list will only give the appearance "somethings being done" when in actual fact it sends us back to square one, ie. the last $#@! 20 years over and over.

It hurts like all buggery, but we've got a plan and we have to stick with it until it works. We are not going to change our board, those same folk will be there year after bloody year whether we like it or not. And if we call for scalps they'll happily oblige, as long as its not theirs, and give the supports the blood they are screaming for. THIS IS NOT CHANGE! (sry for the caps, but I want this to be clear)

The board will sack Malthouse, and those calling for blood will feel a sense of satisfaction, that their being listened to. But this is a ruse / stratagem in itself. The board still stays, nothing changes, just different replacement faces for you to point the stick at and scream "get rid of him!"

How many years are we going to ride this merry-go-round?

I know how easy it is to call for the chop. Watching todays shambles was embarrassing, and I hate Essendon* more than any other club in the competition. I truly hate them so much, I can lose a final and bow out for the year and still reflect "at least we beat Essendon*" :)

So todays loss really cuts deep, and I want to scream and rant trade Gibbs, Sack Malthouse, blah blah blah.

We have to cop it on the chin and "stick fat" on this one, until we get it right. We have the media and the talking heads laying the boot in (as always) and they'd love nothing more than to see us gut our list, sack our coach and stay cellar dwellers for another 20 years. We've sacked coaches, got rid of players and we're still struggling. There is NO quick fix to this. We MUST stick with what we have and improve through hard work and shrewd decisions. This calls for a united commitment, something of which Carlton has lacked in spades for WAY too long now. We either make a plan (which we have) and commit to sticking to that plan, or we will continue to set ourselves back again and again whilst the people at the top hold their seats of power, ie. Nothing changes.

Right now, I want to nuke the entire club and start from scratch. Thats emotion talking. But if we as a club don't get our sh!t together real soon, I'm afraid we will be like Footscray and I'll next flag will be in 2065 or worse, South Melbourne and Fitzroy.

So I'm not falling for it. The media, the talking heads, the trouble makers and divisionists can bait all they want. Unless of coarse we could actually gut the boardroom, ooh watch me go then :smoking: but that's never going to happen, so lets support the coach and the boys.

I'm right behind Mick and the boys, keep at it, work hard until we get it right. GO BLUES!


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:17 pm 
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idle has been drinking the good port this afternoon. the 109 year old shit.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:18 pm 
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idle wrote:
I don't think we need to sack the coach, nor do we need to gut out our list.

Today, and the last two games are the direct result of years of mismanagement and terrible decisions, starting from the boardroom down. This is the reason for today's display on the MCG, and sacking the coach, or gutting out the list will only give the appearance "somethings being done" when in actual fact it sends us back to square one, ie. the last $#@! 20 years over and over.

It hurts like all buggery, but we've got a plan and we have to stick with it until it works. We are not going to change our board, those same folk will be there year after bloody year whether we like it or not. And if we call for scalps they'll happily oblige, as long as its not theirs, and give the supports the blood they are screaming for. THIS IS NOT CHANGE! (sry for the caps, but I want this to be clear)

The board will sack Malthouse, and those calling for blood will feel a sense of satisfaction, that their being listened to. But this is a ruse / stratagem in itself. The board still stays, nothing changes, just different replacement faces for you to point the stick at and scream "get rid of him!"

How many years are we going to ride this merry-go-round?

I know how easy it is to call for the chop. Watching todays shambles was embarrassing, and I hate Essendon** more than any other club in the competition. I truly hate them so much, I can lose a final and bow out for the year and still reflect "at least we beat Essendon**" :)

So todays loss really cuts deep, and I want to scream and rant trade Gibbs, Sack Malthouse, blah blah blah.

We have to cop it on the chin and "stick fat" on this one, until we get it right. We have the media and the talking heads laying the boot in (as always) and they'd love nothing more than to see us gut our list, sack our coach and stay cellar dwellers for another 20 years. We've sacked coaches, got rid of players and we're still struggling. There is NO quick fix to this. We MUST stick with what we have and improve through hard work and shrewd decisions. This calls for a united commitment, something of which Carlton has lacked in spades for WAY too long now. We either make a plan (which we have) and commit to sticking to that plan, or we will continue to set ourselves back again and again whilst the people at the top hold their seats of power, ie. Nothing changes.

Right now, I want to nuke the entire club and start from scratch. Thats emotion talking. But if we as a club don't get our sh!t together real soon, I'm afraid we will be like Footscray and I'll next flag will be in 2065 or worse, South Melbourne and Fitzroy.

So I'm not falling for it. The media, the talking heads, the trouble makers and divisionists can bait all they want. Unless of coarse we could actually gut the boardroom, ooh watch me go then :smoking: but that's never going to happen, so lets support the coach and the boys.

I'm right behind Mick and the boys, keep at it, work hard until we get it right. GO BLUES!


I think you well get ravaged by the intelligent sack malthouse supporters for this.

You might even get banned.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:18 pm 
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I can't keep this up...the next one is just laughable. We went against our system going into 50? FFS. We've been doing the same thing for three seasons in a row now.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:19 pm 
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Coach Mick Malthouse is speaking to the media. Live tweets to follow.

Malthouse: "We had enough of the football to put some heat on the scoreboard, but we didn't capitalise."
Malthouse: "I thought the boys were honest."
Malthouse: "We need to look at our clearance structure. We went against our system going into forward 50 four or five times."

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:21 pm 
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Football is simple.

Forward structure is high and long and to the advantage of the talls.

We didnt do that.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:22 pm 
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bluemagic16 wrote:
idle wrote:
I don't think we need to sack the coach, nor do we need to gut out our list.

Today, and the last two games are the direct result of years of mismanagement and terrible decisions, starting from the boardroom down. This is the reason for today's display on the MCG, and sacking the coach, or gutting out the list will only give the appearance "somethings being done" when in actual fact it sends us back to square one, ie. the last $#@! 20 years over and over.

It hurts like all buggery, but we've got a plan and we have to stick with it until it works. We are not going to change our board, those same folk will be there year after bloody year whether we like it or not. And if we call for scalps they'll happily oblige, as long as its not theirs, and give the supports the blood they are screaming for. THIS IS NOT CHANGE! (sry for the caps, but I want this to be clear)

The board will sack Malthouse, and those calling for blood will feel a sense of satisfaction, that their being listened to. But this is a ruse / stratagem in itself. The board still stays, nothing changes, just different replacement faces for you to point the stick at and scream "get rid of him!"

How many years are we going to ride this merry-go-round?

I know how easy it is to call for the chop. Watching todays shambles was embarrassing, and I hate Essendon*** more than any other club in the competition. I truly hate them so much, I can lose a final and bow out for the year and still reflect "at least we beat Essendon***" :)

So todays loss really cuts deep, and I want to scream and rant trade Gibbs, Sack Malthouse, blah blah blah.

We have to cop it on the chin and "stick fat" on this one, until we get it right. We have the media and the talking heads laying the boot in (as always) and they'd love nothing more than to see us gut our list, sack our coach and stay cellar dwellers for another 20 years. We've sacked coaches, got rid of players and we're still struggling. There is NO quick fix to this. We MUST stick with what we have and improve through hard work and shrewd decisions. This calls for a united commitment, something of which Carlton has lacked in spades for WAY too long now. We either make a plan (which we have) and commit to sticking to that plan, or we will continue to set ourselves back again and again whilst the people at the top hold their seats of power, ie. Nothing changes.

Right now, I want to nuke the entire club and start from scratch. Thats emotion talking. But if we as a club don't get our sh!t together real soon, I'm afraid we will be like Footscray and I'll next flag will be in 2065 or worse, South Melbourne and Fitzroy.

So I'm not falling for it. The media, the talking heads, the trouble makers and divisionists can bait all they want. Unless of coarse we could actually gut the boardroom, ooh watch me go then :smoking: but that's never going to happen, so lets support the coach and the boys.

I'm right behind Mick and the boys, keep at it, work hard until we get it right. GO BLUES!


I think you well get ravaged by the intelligent sack malthouse supporters for this.

You might even get banned.

Idle is a thoughtful poster.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:23 pm 
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bluemagic16 wrote:
Football is simple.

Forward structure is high and long and to the advantage of the talls.

We didnt do that.


Thanks Denis :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:23 pm 
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Defence is going well

105, 131 & 105 kicked against us in 3 games (worse than the Saints)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:24 pm 
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We gave it a crack, had a go, but at the end of the day we just aren't good enough.

That's the cold, hard, sobering reality.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:26 pm 
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chubbyruss wrote:
Defence is going well

105, 131 & 105 kicked against us in 3 games (worse than the Saints)


StKilda to kick 131 next week!


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:26 pm 
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..some of our most naturally talented are also our softest.. ..looking at you Murphy, Gibbs, yarran..

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:29 pm 
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idle wrote:
I don't think we need to sack the coach, nor do we need to gut out our list.

Today, and the last two games are the direct result of years of mismanagement and terrible decisions, starting from the boardroom down. This is the reason for today's display on the MCG, and sacking the coach, or gutting out the list will only give the appearance "somethings being done" when in actual fact it sends us back to square one, ie. the last $#@! 20 years over and over.

It hurts like all buggery, but we've got a plan and we have to stick with it until it works. We are not going to change our board, those same folk will be there year after bloody year whether we like it or not. And if we call for scalps they'll happily oblige, as long as its not theirs, and give the supports the blood they are screaming for. THIS IS NOT CHANGE! (sry for the caps, but I want this to be clear)

The board will sack Malthouse, and those calling for blood will feel a sense of satisfaction, that their being listened to. But this is a ruse / stratagem in itself. The board still stays, nothing changes, just different replacement faces for you to point the stick at and scream "get rid of him!"

How many years are we going to ride this merry-go-round?

I know how easy it is to call for the chop. Watching todays shambles was embarrassing, and I hate Essendon** more than any other club in the competition. I truly hate them so much, I can lose a final and bow out for the year and still reflect "at least we beat Essendon**" :)

So todays loss really cuts deep, and I want to scream and rant trade Gibbs, Sack Malthouse, blah blah blah.

We have to cop it on the chin and "stick fat" on this one, until we get it right. We have the media and the talking heads laying the boot in (as always) and they'd love nothing more than to see us gut our list, sack our coach and stay cellar dwellers for another 20 years. We've sacked coaches, got rid of players and we're still struggling. There is NO quick fix to this. We MUST stick with what we have and improve through hard work and shrewd decisions. This calls for a united commitment, something of which Carlton has lacked in spades for WAY too long now. We either make a plan (which we have) and commit to sticking to that plan, or we will continue to set ourselves back again and again whilst the people at the top hold their seats of power, ie. Nothing changes.

Right now, I want to nuke the entire club and start from scratch. Thats emotion talking. But if we as a club don't get our sh!t together real soon, I'm afraid we will be like Footscray and I'll next flag will be in 2065 or worse, South Melbourne and Fitzroy.

So I'm not falling for it. The media, the talking heads, the trouble makers and divisionists can bait all they want. Unless of coarse we could actually gut the boardroom, ooh watch me go then :smoking: but that's never going to happen, so lets support the coach and the boys.

I'm right behind Mick and the boys, keep at it, work hard until we get it right. GO BLUES!


I'm hoping there will be a rival ticket very soon.
MM must go at the end of his contract.
I am worried for some of our promising young recruits..
learning a ridiculous or non existent game plan with out moded style and premise.
I'll repeat again how amazing it was to hear from Dickson on League teams..with footage for example.
He said his team would have know all about how to play on the opposition. Their style..their weaknesses etc.
he said it was clear that Malty never approaches games like this. Then the older school guys on the panel laughed how Leigh Mathews never did anything like that, and how much the game has changed.
Mick is totally the wrong coach for our team!
We put up with him for this season
and then the rebuild really starts.
Meanwhile,
hopefully there will be a board spill.
Please.....somebody make it happen!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:33 pm 
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Cripps is going to be a Sam Mitchell kind of stud in the middle of the ground.

AND!

... he beat Jobe in a running race to the ball in the 2nd qtr.

He's faster and talller than Jobe! Wih hands like Mitchell!!


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:35 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
I'll repeat again how amazing it was to hear from Dickson on League teams..with footage for example.
He said his team would have know all about how to play on the opposition. Their style..their weaknesses etc.
he said it was clear that Malty never approaches games like this. Then the older school guys on the panel laughed how Leigh Mathews never did anything like that, and how much the game has changed.
Mick is totally the wrong coach for our team!
We put up with him for this season



yeah it was very telling. It had me watching the game today differently. we're poorly coached, and MM is clueless to the modern game and has little idea about what tools the modern footballer needs.

we need to move on, and pronto.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:36 pm 
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Loved casboult's game...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:36 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
idle wrote:
I don't think we need to sack the coach, nor do we need to gut out our list.

Today, and the last two games are the direct result of years of mismanagement and terrible decisions, starting from the boardroom down. This is the reason for today's display on the MCG, and sacking the coach, or gutting out the list will only give the appearance "somethings being done" when in actual fact it sends us back to square one, ie. the last $#@! 20 years over and over.

It hurts like all buggery, but we've got a plan and we have to stick with it until it works. We are not going to change our board, those same folk will be there year after bloody year whether we like it or not. And if we call for scalps they'll happily oblige, as long as its not theirs, and give the supports the blood they are screaming for. THIS IS NOT CHANGE! (sry for the caps, but I want this to be clear)

The board will sack Malthouse, and those calling for blood will feel a sense of satisfaction, that their being listened to. But this is a ruse / stratagem in itself. The board still stays, nothing changes, just different replacement faces for you to point the stick at and scream "get rid of him!"

How many years are we going to ride this merry-go-round?

I know how easy it is to call for the chop. Watching todays shambles was embarrassing, and I hate Essendon*** more than any other club in the competition. I truly hate them so much, I can lose a final and bow out for the year and still reflect "at least we beat Essendon***" :)

So todays loss really cuts deep, and I want to scream and rant trade Gibbs, Sack Malthouse, blah blah blah.

We have to cop it on the chin and "stick fat" on this one, until we get it right. We have the media and the talking heads laying the boot in (as always) and they'd love nothing more than to see us gut our list, sack our coach and stay cellar dwellers for another 20 years. We've sacked coaches, got rid of players and we're still struggling. There is NO quick fix to this. We MUST stick with what we have and improve through hard work and shrewd decisions. This calls for a united commitment, something of which Carlton has lacked in spades for WAY too long now. We either make a plan (which we have) and commit to sticking to that plan, or we will continue to set ourselves back again and again whilst the people at the top hold their seats of power, ie. Nothing changes.

Right now, I want to nuke the entire club and start from scratch. Thats emotion talking. But if we as a club don't get our sh!t together real soon, I'm afraid we will be like Footscray and I'll next flag will be in 2065 or worse, South Melbourne and Fitzroy.

So I'm not falling for it. The media, the talking heads, the trouble makers and divisionists can bait all they want. Unless of coarse we could actually gut the boardroom, ooh watch me go then :smoking: but that's never going to happen, so lets support the coach and the boys.

I'm right behind Mick and the boys, keep at it, work hard until we get it right. GO BLUES!


I'm hoping there will be a rival ticket very soon.
MM must go at the end of his contract.
I am worried for some of our promising young recruits..
learning a ridiculous or non existent game plan with out moded style and premise.
I'll repeat again how amazing it was to hear from Dickson on League teams..with footage for example.
He said his team would have know all about how to play on the opposition. Their style..their weaknesses etc.
he said it was clear that Malty never approaches games like this. Then the older school guys on the panel laughed how Leigh Mathews never did anything like that, and how much the game has changed.
Mick is totally the wrong coach for our team!
We put up with him for this season
and then the rebuild really starts.
Meanwhile,
hopefully there will be a board spill.
Please.....somebody make it happen!!!!!!


What was Ratten's Gameplan?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:38 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Loved casboult's game...



still better than watson, huh?


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