I loved that film. Couldn't look away.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

yeah mark is going to get rid of craig .... lol

u have no idea...

and if mark said that to u... he is the dumbest marshmallow around...because thats not whats going on at all..

u see... bruce made mark king... and the king has his face to whats going on in the next few years.....he cant do without mathesons money... especially in a coming recession and especially in a rebuild...
.. so hes lost the pratt money and he has to go to the afl for an advance on the back of a 3 million dollar loss... u dont think it wwill be at least 3 million loss this year???
next hes going to push the mathiesons out... his handlers..

they know why hes president... if he suceeding he gets moved on.... if he doesnt succeed .. its his chubby face to blame

i am not sure mark is holding a good set of cards in all this....

thats why he is a puppet
any vote from his board sees him out....

and that vote will come any time the pratts and mathiesons decide its his head and body that come rolling down that apocalypto pyramid next...

all it needs is the click of their fingers

hes kidding if he truly believes that...

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Dear everyone
As we all know the spanking we'll get on sat.,
thought we'd pre empt it with our new 66 week plan.

as we are re building now, it's to be expected that we'll get thumped.

Also, its not in any way MM's fault that he got daisy and some hack top ups,
because he thought we'd be top 4 material.
Some players didn't get on with him that well, but they've moved on now.
it became obvious to Mick, when the players couldn't maintain possession of the ball with his cunning boundary line plays, that we were no chance of making the 8.
The players are terrible, all of them..and it's sheer co incidence that those now at other clubs are playing well.
The board, as always is steps ahead of the pack, and have been behind this rebuild since at least Monday arvo.

sincerely

MLG. (go blues! viva le board!!)

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Thanks jimmae, the way people have been posting it appeared the board was a virtual closed shop.

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oh rubbish... non sanctioned nominees??

why have that???


and yes people standard and subject themselves to the nomination process .... where mark tells u if youre worthy or not

he might say... "we have too many accountants on the board already....".. or... "you have a lisp..."

look i wonder what the young think tank is thinking about all this...

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jimmae has anybody from the club taken you to the pub???

you just seem to be really enforcing and condoning their mediocrity....

the question needs to be asked...

youve been giving us the bright side of every disaster for the past 9 months i reckon.....

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We'll see Synners.... You may be right, I may be right....... One things for sure though things are changing, even Stevie Wonder can see it!!!!!

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

You need to read between the lines

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

lol @ syd ... ur a crackpot

well teague change doesnt mean things are gong to be good

like we have changed a few things in the last 15 years

ultimately the culture of the club is the same...

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We are a rabble

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

You guys wade into the black abyss a little too quickly a lot of the time, that general negativity can be as much as a problem as a bad board.

Semi-strong information in most markets Synners; even with your connections there's only so much you're privy to.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

This is an email I sent the club on Monday. Could've spent more time on it and been more eloquent but I think the message comes across. Sometimes I wish I didn't but I care about this club and it's soul destroying we're a basket case again.

With the public statements by Trigg and MLG, I figure there is no harm in posting this.

"Dear Mr Steven Trigg

My name is Mat and I’m a lifelong supporter and member.

A more passionate Carlton person you will not find. My own personal happiness is directly aligned to the performance and success of our team and club. Just ask my wife, friends and work colleagues.

To be a true power club again and have ongoing and sustainable success is my single biggest wish.

I stood by the club throughout the dark years of 2002 – 2007, which were soul destroying to say the least.

I was present at Friday night’s game with my 10 year old son (soon to be 11) who was ‘Born A Blue’. To be frank, I was absolutely disgusted and alarmed with what I witnessed. Reminded me of those dark times, which are all too fresh in the memory. My son turned to me at 3 quarter time with tears in his eyes and said ‘Dad can we go now, I can’t take this anymore’.

How can we find ourselves in this position again and so soon? Sobering thought, isn’t it? This is an indictment on the club and all those that have held positions of power over this time.

Who is accountable for this? Will the Board publicly take responsibility for the strategies and decisions they have taken that have lead to the club being in this dire position again?

The Key Drivers for Success are just words. Heard these and similar before. Meaningful change and tangible evidence of improvement are required.

Winning games has to be part of any measurement of success. Especially after the poor seasons of recent years.
Consider the following:

· - The unacceptable performances in the first two games come after the club and players have publicly announced they are fully united and have established new standards and a culture of professionalism and excellence.

· - To start well but then show zero response when challenged in listless performances that lack basic team spirit, teamwork and competitiveness.

· - The stark lack of any on field leadership.

· - This is the 3rd season in a row where the season is effectively over in the first few weeks. How can these types of performances continually be dished up and tolerated?

· - How other clubs seemingly in the same tier have surpassed us in one offseason with elite young talent coming through and performing well (eg Port in 2014, Bulldogs this year) when we’ve had 3 under the current regime. Our better players are still our more experienced ones and our depth and talented youth is thin at best.

· - How many times the club has found itself in this position since the start of 2012. Do you think the members and supporters are just going to stand for it time and time again? We’ve heard all the words from the players and coaches about what’s required but it’s the actions on field that count.

· - The club has effectively wasted the ‘Judd era’ with substandard recruiting and development.

· - The club has not had meaningful success for 20 years and has failed to do what’s required in the modern age to be successful. While the same board members and powerbrokers are involved with the club in positions of influence, this will not change.

In short, I am heartbroken and gutted that the club is in this position again.

I have lost complete faith in all those at the club and sadly see very little hope for success in the immediate, short and medium terms. Especially when considering how the club has been mismanaged during this wasted era. How could we have any confidence in the club’s capability to turn this around?

I trust you’ll recognise when you have core members and supporters feeling like this, the club has serious problems. I doubt I’m alone in my thoughts.

I thought long and hard about whether to compose and send this email. I know the likelihood is it will be ignored and make no difference to the club whatsoever. However I couldn’t live with myself if I didn’t do something, no matter how small, because the sad reality is this once great club is dying.

I would welcome a response and look forward to hearing from you.

Regards

Mat"

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We are on our way back...

Can't hurt MPH.

It's well reasoned and heartfelt.

Hope it gets some traction.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

thats a great email mat , let us know if you get a response

reckon the PA will struggle with that one

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I love your passion MPH. You are pointing at the biggest problem. We "core" members who stuck with the club through the dark times have difficulty facing another 3 years of bottom dwelling and smashings. We expected top 4 for a long period as our reward for paying our membership and going to all theses games where we were smashed by often 100 points. Now we have to do 3 bad years again before we start climbing.... it will be very depressing, but probably necessary. The problem will be that we might loose a lot of supporters - we did in the 00's even if the club does not want to recognize it.

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

Synbads negativity is as much a problem as a bad board?

Email preparing us for a poor year.

List is poor and players dont want to come here

Thomas
Jaksch
Jones
Tutt

We're getting players to come, they're just no good.

Why don't the good players want to come here?

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Excellent MPH...I would only add that you are definitely not alone in your thinking

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“Every single element of the Club has to be the best in the league, meticulously and methodically, and only by doing this will we be elite and challenge for number 17.”
Greg Lee

I said general negativity can be as much of a problem as a bad board. I would say 20 years since success can have an impact on how supporters react to good news and bad news.

MLG touched on it in the interview - everything feeds into everything else - how can it not?

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Can you explain what you mean by general negativity?

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010