Instead of the AFL lining us up for draft penalties we're doing it to ourselves now?

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dane's trolling again

True.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

The rot hasn't so much set in, it's remained.

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Leigh Matthews once said about most footy teams that you're never as bad as some think you are and you're never as good as some think you are. It can all turn around very quickly (Port Adelaide) and decline quickly (St Kilda).

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Yep!

I felt the urge to be in Oz just to be close to do something for the club.

London Blue was London calling and TC posters ...plenty of them...setting up Blueseum...generating hype, hope and desire to be relevant again.

That was a Black period...cost me tens of thousands.....then Pratt came, Judd, Fev....you know the rest.

Recruitment, debt were and remain an issue.

I have confidence we can continue to build. We need results in the next 3-4 weeks including a scalp to continue the momentum we started towards the end of 2014...and next year... a couple mids the opposition would prefer to tag more so than Murphy Gibbs..that's about it coz Judd is a bonus these days.

We have become the Tiggers and we need to change that. Bolster the midfield quickly whilst top 4 teams like Cats start to decline.

Every dog has its day.

We will rise to the top sooner than later..maybe this year after a wake up call or next year when we rid ourselves of Tiggers and recruit movers and shakers.

We are not that far away. Let's get this ruck division sorted.

Our failure has nothing to do with No 1 picks...it's the 2nd 3rd and 4th rounders who have failed in the last decade.

Go Bluebaggers

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During the spoon years we were at least sold some hope with early draft picks... just wait until we'll rebuild etc

Over a decade on our number one picks are not what we hoped for... drafting/development as a whole, deplorable for the most part.

Today the team / club as a whole seems to be stuck in a vortex of mediocrity with seemingly no way out.

People are worried we may be revisiting those dark days and that would easily eclipse what we went though a decade ago.

<disclaimer: please ignore post if we manage to dramatically improve>

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of the 3 he was THE non premiership coachof the 3.... the others have multiple premierships and prelims...

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draft penalties we did to ourselves .. not the afl

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He also had a greater understanding of the existing club culture, even spending a season under Pagan as a player.

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problem with ratten is he wasnt much of a thinker
he didnt understand the trends
his procurement of twenty five half back flankers is testimony to this
his complete reliance on a couple of freaks..judd and fev go back and watch some of those games
he brought mclean in .. and then banished him to the reserves till mclean thought it was all over and then recalled him
his lack of grooming a leader relying on a judd who didnt even want to have it instead.
just a football coaching weirdo in my eyes...
the holding up of the footy was the beez kneez in footy tactical nouse...

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Rattens record as a coach at Carlton if far better that Malthouse and Pagan record at Carlton.
Thats all that matters.
I don't care what they did elsewhere

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yes. he will be forever remembered in footy folklore...

the great ratts footy coach

lol

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Winning premierships is all that matters - none of the above 3 have achieved it at Carlton

Ratten no better than Malthouse or vice versa on that measure

Winning games means nothing if you aren't heading towards the holy grail

Stop dropping your heads and glorifying Ratten through a simple win/loss analysis. Malthouse can coach and has been hard enough to gut the list. He will leave the place better than he entered it. He is just scape goat of previous coaching and recruiting incompetence.

ratten a great coach better than pagan and madhouse

thats a cracker.....


hes 3rd banana at hawthorn

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I'm not a huge fan of David King, or AFL 360 for that matter.

But tonight he was on with Mark Maclure, and he said what Carlton needed was an "intervention" of a good friend to tell them how bad things really are, because no-one at the club realizes or wants to realize.

Maclure just nodded sagely.

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I don't care about reputation ... hell if Synbad had 31 years as a coach with the players the Madhouse has had ... I reckon even he would have won a premiership.

The bottom line is ... Ratten was much more successful as a coach at Carlton than Pagan or the Madhouse. The Madhouse appointment was ridiculous at the time and every year we slip further away it gets more ridiculous ... End of story.

I just keep hoping that he can somehow turn things around ... meanwhile we are the laughing stock of the AFL and have lost ground to every other club and wasted another 3 years. Its a bad weekend every time we lose and I am sick of it ...

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who is ours?

Handy banana to have 3rd in line really.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I saw that and I agreed with what he was saying.
For once it was Maclure and not him taking a sledgehammer to the Club.

Why cant Macca or Trigg or Mick just come out and say we re rebuilding. I for one didn't expect to make finals, but hoped for 10-12 wins with the kids showing some promiss. Whether that's enough to give MM a new contract I don't know.

We ve had to patch up the list to deal with the shocking recruitment of the past hence bringing in guys like Jones, Whiley, Doc, Everitt, Tutt, etc.

Just say its going to take time to fix the mistakes of many years of bad recruiting. Only an idiot would think that you can get rid of 50% of your list over two years and go BANG! and be an awesome team straight away.

There is light at the end of the tunnel... We ve got a good bunch of kids coming through for the first time in a while. We need to get everything right in terms of player development and recruiting from now on. No room for errors.

The main problem, and its been mentioned over and over again, is the mixed messages coming out from the coach and the club. They come out at the start of every year and talk finals, and most people get sucked in. So then when we end up not being that good, but playing to the level that we are really at, a lot of the nuff nuff supporters go ballistic (hene the overreaction after only 1 game).



So your lauding a guy who isn't seen as even good enough to be an assistant coach, but a 3rd in line ?
The Hawks proffered to put that smiling Tassie dude who had no AFL coaching experience in charge rather than Ratts when Clarko was sick last year.
That's says it all.

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