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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:00 pm 
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No I think Cripps copped it quite a bit from a section of this community.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:55 pm 
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One of the players I would be having a close look at is Jammo. Has escaped criticism for a few seasons now. Need to develop a full back with a little bit of aggression and some attacking flair.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:57 pm 
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Jamo's done all of that in peak form. The problem right now is the tall defenders are under siege by how slack the midfield and forwards are at slowing down the run from HB to HF.

If he's one out with his opponent and they're going from HB to HF in under 10s consistently, he's going to be under a lot of pressure just to mind his man.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:20 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
Jamo's done all of that in peak form. The problem right now is the tall defenders are under siege by how slack the midfield and forwards are at slowing down the run from HB to HF.

If he's one out with his opponent and they're going from HB to HF in under 10s consistently, he's going to be under a lot of pressure just to mind his man.


Absolutely, I'd also like to add that if Jamo had played his entire career for collingwood, he'd of been AA and fawned over by the commentators non stop. He's been a very solid defender. Still is. He is just an untidy kick


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:23 pm 
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No heart...lack of desire to win consistently and succeed...lazy in many aspects of our game...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:52 pm 
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I am still laughing at this Clem Smith guy... Where on Earth did they pluck him from??

Small, overweight, no skills, no pressure, didn't know what to do with the ball in his hands, did basically Nothing....Was this Mick's replacements for Betts and Gartlet?

Pathetic!!


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:54 pm 
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Thing is we have replaced our old flair and up and down performances with sustained crap. We no longer have the peaks, just more constant below par performances.

The problems are many and varied but Mick and Co are part of it, plus the inability of those on the board to see where we are at (always over estimating where we are) and the terrible recruiting before Mick's time.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:58 pm 
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Adam Chatfield wrote:
Thing is we have replaced our old flair and up and down performances with sustained crap. We no longer have the peaks, just more constant below par performances.

The problems are many and varied but Mick and Co are part of it, plus the inability of those on the board to see where we are at (always over estimating where we are) and the terrible recruiting before Mick's time.


Would you know by any chance Adam who is actually our Current Recruiting Manager?

The last time I checked, I saw a Manager declaring he Quit the Club, then I heard he is threatening to leave unless his demands are met, and then the Draft Came and I still didn't know whom the Manager is. It seemed to me Mick was choosing on his own as he liked...

2015 is on us and I still don't know if that Clown of a Recruiting Manager is actually still in charge or whether he quit or whether he is still threatening to quit!!!

What a Joke of a Club!!!


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Former AFL players who are now commentators, watched Clem and said he has some real talent, the steal of the draft was the comment by others in the system. But not dodo, he knows best because he saw him play a full game when he was not ready! Dodo by name dodo by nature lol

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:25 pm 
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Positive, there talking up richmond as a powerhouse club.........

1st game of the year, relax.....


Round one premiers for the last couple of years.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:29 pm 
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I thought Richmond would go okay this year. Not so sure after Thursday night.


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Yazzamatazz wrote:
Former AFL players who are now commentators, watched Clem and said he has some real talent, the steal of the draft was the comment by others in the system. But not dodo, he knows best because he saw him play a full game when he was not ready! Dodo by name dodo by nature lol



If he was not ready, then he should never have been picked to play... When he came on for Daisy, he Gave us nothing....Total liability....

The Steal of the Draft?? that would have be the Joke of the Season so far, based on what I saw of him.... and coming from Former AFL players!!! do you think they would know better than any of us?

Send him back to the VFL for a year or two so he can develop, then he can come back and show us his talent... and ask him to lose some Weight too


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:42 pm 
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The real dodo is back and dominating!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:02 pm 
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Dodo is still adding more than you do...

care to give us analysis and thought on the game.. structures etc??

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Dodo27 wrote:
Yazzamatazz wrote:
Former AFL players who are now commentators, watched Clem and said he has some real talent, the steal of the draft was the comment by others in the system. But not dodo, he knows best because he saw him play a full game when he was not ready! Dodo by name dodo by nature lol



If he was not ready, then he should never have been picked to play... When he came on for Daisy, he Gave us nothing....Total liability....

The Steal of the Draft?? that would have be the Joke of the Season so far, based on what I saw of him.... and coming from Former AFL players!!! do you think they would know better than any of us?

Send him back to the VFL for a year or two so he can develop, then he can come back and show us his talent... and ask him to lose some Weight too


Reckon he'll be alright Dodo. Problem is we need and expect him to come on and be Byron Pickett on his first game. Looked promising in the NAB. Losing Eddie and Jeffy so quickly robs us of so much pace an defensive pressure.

This week we must bring in Buckley and Boekhurst and resist the temptation to bring in the slow dud Ellard.

Out: Daisy, Curnow, Jaksch

In: Buckley, Boekhurst, Levi

Tempting to drop Murphy and Gibbs, but you can't drop em all, and maybe just maybe those two have some pride in the jumper and will respond this week.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:15 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Dodo is still adding more than you do...

care to give us analysis and thought on the game.. structures etc??


Hold up I'm googling lord of the rings photos for my analysis.

BRB.

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Dodo27 wrote:
I am still laughing at this Clem Smith guy... Where on Earth did they pluck him from??

Small, overweight, no skills, no pressure, didn't know what to do with the ball in his hands, did basically Nothing....Was this Mick's replacements for Betts and Gartlet?

Pathetic!!


Not an accurate description of a talented YOUNG kid.
Normally a sub would come on in the last when evryone else has run 10 kms.
It's not his fault he was selected then thrown to the wolves.

He isn't fit enough foe AFL seniors. I think we all agree on that.
He is not Betts or Garlett he has been described more like Byron Pickett with an ability to snag goals.
He likes the tough stuff. Pity no one led by example for him,

He will come good, just not this year.
Needs miles in his legs, and has to watch his weight.
I thought he looked good in the NAB. Looked almost ready.
Mistake to play him, not because he can't make the grade.

A bit tough on the kid DoDo. I understand your frustration though.

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Couldnt really argue with any of you guys..............obviously run through the guts being the major problem.And thats got nothin' to do with pace.Whether you are fast or slow ya gotta get on your bike and start motorin' pronto.So damn tentative and uncertain of there roles so many players.Mick berating CJ in such a full blown outburst aint gonna do that kid any good.CJ lacks confidence at the best of times and a public humiliation that he copped from Mick is baffling.There is a time and place as far as im concerned and on the boundart at the " G " in front of eighty thousand people aint the time or place.Poor form Mick.
In the words of you know who its early doors and im hoping with so many new players we will eventually gell.Aint giving up this early.

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Mick rolled the dice with Clem. He knew this would happen if we had an injury early but thought he would add what we needed as a sub if things went to plan. Probably rewarding the kid for working so hard since he arrived too.

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game plan for this was to stop 9thmonds 3 best players. control the stoppages and centre clearances. run the ball through the middle of corridor.

first 2 worked. we failed on the 3rd. Richmonds pressure was effective and we started to panic and play low risk football. many of our better ball users were rusty and missed lots of targets.

Mick likes to adjust to the opposition. i get that. but can we see 2 things.
1. no more than 1 tagger. pls back our midfield. we need more creativity.
2. more run from defence. we are slow. our forward line in not awesome. need to give them a chance with quick ball movement. example. Play like Tuohey should be getting 15 touches a game and an option moving forward.

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