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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:24 pm 
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Some posters think we suffer predominantly from the sins of the present, some the sins of the past. I am in the past camp. I thought our selections last night were unforgivable. Tutt, Bokeburst were in our best 22 on NAB cup form. Add buckley and casboult who are positive footballers. I less interested in the scoreboard and more into player development.


Go and watch the Northern blues then.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:42 am 
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We lost the game at half forward. Houli et al ran the ball out with ease creating a loose man all the way to their forward line.
Smith is not ready for AFL, should never have played. Workrate is poor.
Any team watching that game knows how to beat carlton. How our players respond depends on them.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:42 am 
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Why was our 19 year old pick 60 chosen ahead if our 21 year old pick 19?

Stupid selection.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:53 am 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
We lost the game at half forward. Houli et al ran the ball out with ease creating a loose man all the way to their forward line.
Smith is not ready for AFL, should never have played. Workrate is poor.
Any team watching that game knows how to beat carlton. How our players respond depends on them.


Yep. Create the loose man across half back, pick off the incoming bomb, switch play with ease and then run down field with uncontested, no pressure, plenty of space footy and score.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:53 am 
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Did it really have an effect on the outcome?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:02 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
buzzaaaah wrote:
We lost the game at half forward. Houli et al ran the ball out with ease creating a loose man all the way to their forward line.
Smith is not ready for AFL, should never have played. Workrate is poor.
Any team watching that game knows how to beat carlton. How our players respond depends on them.


Yep. Create the loose man across half back, pick off the incoming bomb, switch play with ease and then run down field with uncontested, no pressure, plenty of space footy and score.


How to beat carlton 101.

Been the same way for years


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:15 am 
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Not disagreeing but you would think then that if it was so easy for the opposition, that we would be flogged. 4 goals is not a flogging.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:26 am 
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Not disagreeing but you would think then that if it was so easy for the opposition, that we would be flogged. 4 goals is not a flogging.


Tiges looked liked they were doing circle work for half the game it came out that easy.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:26 am 
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@Padre - watch for when we play man on man vs the loose man in defence.
It doesn't happen for 4 quarters but when we allow it or try to play that way, it's game over.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:32 am 
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robertbb wrote:
Why was our 19 year old pick 60 chosen ahead if our 21 year old pick 19?

Stupid selection.



Not relevant IMO. I'd like to think our selectors ignore where a player was drafted when they pick the team.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:59 am 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
robertbb wrote:
Why was our 19 year old pick 60 chosen ahead if our 21 year old pick 19?

Stupid selection.



Not relevant IMO. I'd like to think our selectors ignore where a player was drafted when they pick the team.

+1

Additionally, Clem slid because of weight issues.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:09 am 
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padre wrote:
Not disagreeing but you would think then that if it was so easy for the opposition, that we would be flogged. 4 goals is not a flogging.


You're not going to dominate the centre clearances 17-9 like we did Thursday night too often.
Yet we still lost to an average team by 27 points. Don't be confused, Richmond were very average Thursday night. We just let them play the final 3 quarters on their terms.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:12 am 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
robertbb wrote:
Why was our 19 year old pick 60 chosen ahead if our 21 year old pick 19?

Stupid selection.



Not relevant IMO. I'd like to think our selectors ignore where a player was drafted when they pick the team.



saw this guy in action yesterday and I know it was a practice game but there are spots to be won in a losing senior side

all I can say is OMFG

if you thought lucas was bad have a look at this guy

no shit but his hair got more touches that the leather


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:13 am 
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yep, was a very poorly coached game

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:45 am 
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jimmae wrote:
Navy Blue Horse wrote:
robertbb wrote:
Why was our 19 year old pick 60 chosen ahead if our 21 year old pick 19?

Stupid selection.



Not relevant IMO. I'd like to think our selectors ignore where a player was drafted when they pick the team.

+1

Additionally, Clem slid because of weight issues.


:donk:

I don't doubt Smith will be a player for us, but why did we take BB at pick 19? You don't pluck a 21 year old out of the WAFL at pick 19 unless you absolutely expect him to play round 1 and make an impact. The fact that he didn't make a team sorely missing outside run is a major concern.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:48 am 
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It's probably just fitness concerns. They shoved him into the middle in the second half of the VFL game and had him chasing tail the rest of the game.

I have full confidence they're looking to maximise his output for the whole season.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 11:51 am 
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carntheblues wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
Some posters think we suffer predominantly from the sins of the present, some the sins of the past. I am in the past camp. I thought our selections last night were unforgivable. Tutt, Bokeburst were in our best 22 on NAB cup form. Add buckley and casboult who are positive footballers. I less interested in the scoreboard and more into player development.


Go and watch the Northern blues then.


I'd hazard to say that it's a sin that keeps on sinning. We are so desperate to be competitive that not only do we put the future on hold but we see things in players that aren't there. The kids will take time but we need them now - it's a schizophrenic response that creates all sorts of problems.

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A whipping boy before even playing 1 senior game

Even for this site that must be a first

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 1:55 pm 
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A whipping boy before even playing 1 senior game

Even for this site that must be a first


You'd think so, but sadly, possibly not

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