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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:55 pm 
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Nothing major. He'll be right in a couple of weeks

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:14 pm 
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Humpers wrote:
Boekhurst in for Thomas.
Do we give Jones another chance? Maybe replace him with a runner like Buckley.
Smith can remain in the side but as a sub.


Jones will always kick you a couple. Leave him there but as a 3rd tall. Reckon he'd be dangerous as a 3rd tall just not bodily strong enough to be a 1st or 2nd tall. Bring Casboult in. Rowe back to CHB, where he plays, Jaksch as 3rd tall as he's still learning. In other words, back to a structure that works. Like it or not I think the forward line is going to miss Waite alot, despite his failings.

Whiley's had a damn good one in today's practice match against Box Hill so straight in too.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:19 pm 
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cecil89 wrote:
Out:
Wood
Smith
Thomas
Tuohy

In:
Warnock
Tutt
Boekhorst
Buckley

Wood was soundly beaten last night, and NicNat will jump all over him next week. I know Warnock gives us bugger all around the ground, but I think we need him or we'll get ragdolled in the middle next week.
Smith is young and learning, but Tutt gives us more speed, better fitness and more experience in the same role.
Thomas is obviously injured and can be replaced by Borkhorst, who'll again add speed and outside run.
Lastly Tuohy.. Unlucky. He wasn't terrible last night, but by the same token he hasn't had a really good game since 2013. Buckley gives us more speed and aggressiveness.

*Normally I'd probably leave Tuohy in and drop White, but I can't see a way to justify it after White played pretty well last night.


No chance i'd be dropping Wood, he's actually a decent player. If he doesn't win alot of taps next week, so be it, he's good around the ground and will take more marks in one game than Warnock will in 10. You can lose taps and win the clearances so I want the around the ground stuff.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:25 pm 
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Apparently Boek didn't get a sniff today.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:27 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
Casboult can't kick, therefore shouldn't play


Other's can't get the ball. To have a shot at kicking for goal you have to get the ball first and can mark it. Other aren't. Plus we need a 2nd ruckman. Leave Rowe where he plays best.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:33 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Apparently Boek didn't get a sniff today.
Whiley was really good apparently. Jaksch and Whiley might be good value for pick 7.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:36 pm 
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jim wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Apparently Boek didn't get a sniff today.
Whiley was really good apparently. Jaksch and Whiley might be good value for pick 7.


Hope so.

ergh.

Spent .

Out.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:39 pm 
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Nothing about today's practice match suggests we should play Whiley or Casboult.

More to be said about Fields, Buckley, Byrne, Graham and Viojo-Rainbow. Anyone accumulating possessions at stoppages when we have no spread is part of the reason we have no spread.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:49 pm 
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Just pick anyone

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:51 pm 
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Just pick anyone


Sakc them all. Rehire them then sakc them again I say.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:55 pm 
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Sack them in the middle of a game and play the game out with no players just to make a point

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:56 pm 
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Boom!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:58 pm 
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Blueboy_Dan wrote:
Hornet wrote:
Melbourne Victory v Newcastle Jets @ AAMI Park 7:40pm


That's where I'll be...


Same here. Watching a team who is run professionally and are going places.




I agree at the point of giving up my AFL ( Carlton Support) membership for good, the AFL has lost me.
Will buy a Victory membership next year from now on and I will follow the world game more so than his game which I used to love but has been ruined by VLAD and his cohorts. It's just bull shit now.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:10 pm 
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"He started off well like last week, but only ended up with the nine disposals and two marks. He played more as a ruckman than a tall forward. What we wanted to see from Levi was him competing in the ruck, getting around the ground and taking some marks. As a ruckman he competed well and looked dangerous at times when he went up forward. Our ball movement forward didn’t help him at times."

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:21 pm 
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I thought Jones done more fwd than Hendo vs Tigers.

I think Hendo needs to go back. I think he plays better there and I think he's more comfortable there.
Play Rowe fwd. And if our game plan is to bomb it then Casboult needs to play. Let Jones play as a third tall like Mick & Wiley said all preseason.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:29 pm 
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Was hoping BB - our 'mature age first round pick' selection would have been a walk up start to come in the side however it sounds like he struggled against Box Hill today who had no listed AFL players.

Oh well - guess the changes should be as follows:

Out
Smith - like the look of him however I think he needs time
Thomas

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Buckley
Tutt

Jones gets another chance - if he doesn't perform then Watson gets a go.
Need to keep playing the likes of Jaksch and Cripps.
Warnock would be handy in the ruck against NicNat but we need more around the ground.
Casboult might take a couple of nice grabs but will struggle to kick a goal and won't do much around the ground.

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I assume Tutt in for Thomas...


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:52 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Hibbo wrote:
I thought Jones done more fwd than Hendo vs Tigers.

I think Hendo needs to go back. I think he plays better there and I think he's more comfortable there.
Play Rowe fwd. And if our game plan is to bomb it then Casboult needs to play. Let Jones play as a third tall like Mick & Wiley said all preseason.



Did you? Do you also see Hendo chasing Smiths man downfield several times while Smith trailed 20 metres behind?
Or wasn't that in the TV screen? Its not a criticism of Smith, he's just not fit enough.
Liam Jones needs to understand his responsibilities don't only apply when the ball is within 5 metres.

Our problem is forward pressure. We can't win enough one on one contests up forward which enables our opposition to zone off. Too often players like Houli and Batchelor were running offensively before the Tiges had even won the ball. 31 uncontested possessions between 2 defenders!
People on this site talk about cheating players. Richmond cheat infinitely more than our players. We're just good enough to punish them for it.
The outcome is Houli, Batchelor, Hunt and co run the ball up the ground with no pressure and hit up their forwards with ease.
Yet you and others are advocating we send into defence the only forward we played who could win a one on one or chased to apply pressure. :?

BV while you're bang on about the lack of effort by some at forward pressure acts, you're also overlooking that some of the forwards need to be ahead of the play.

Hendo did not win his share of 50-50s on the night; 0 marks inside 50, 1 contested mark. Yes the pressure acts were nice but he kicked 2 points and had one goal assist for the evening. I honestly think he's getting in the way right now because if he was close to an elite forward he'd have 3 goals to go with 6 marks and those blokes out of breath would be front and square with less miles in the legs because they know exactly how he'll look to bring the ball down.

We don't have that level of organisation in the forward unit and he's supposed to be the leader of it. He can @#$%&! off and go somewhere his attributes are weapons instead of hindrances that engender our entire midfield unit to push too far up the ground so when we do turn it over, Richmond only have to nail a simple 40 m pass to have a free run at their own 50.

That he and the forward unit don't have the confidence of the midfield enough to prevent them all rushing forward to provide link up options without much purpose or team play hurts our ability to shut down Richmond's rebound. So is it the forward structure in personnel, tactics, the confidence in it from midfield or the support offered from midfield?

I think it's a little bit of everything, but when your supposedly best forward gets spoiled so easily it's hard to sit back and do nothing as all your I50s count for nothing.

Here's are the statistical truths of last night:
- Our traditional prime movers spent the least amount of time on ground
- No one took more than one mark inside 50 or one contested mark for CFC all night
- We won the time in possession battle comfortably (55% to 45%) but lost total possessions by 30 (the gap was as much as 40-50 at points)
- We only lost the I50 count 46-54
- Almost all of Richmond's extra disposals came from uncontested ball wins
- Richmond only had one more mark I50 (12-11), but importantly won the constested mark count 13-7; their mark I50 count was also concentrated around key targets, while we had no players with more than 1 for the whole match

So the supply dried up and got patchy but we didn't have a consistent target who was taking grabs. Hendo was the focal point yet was neither marking in the clinches or providing ground ball for others; in fact, they were providing ground balls for him.

He doesn't have a @#$%&! clue what he's doing at the moment and that's on him and the coaches. Does the defensive basics right but if he took the aerial load his mates would help with forward pressure just fine by virtue of being at the fall of the ball more regularly and having more gas in the tank.


cimm1979 wrote:
If the rest of the team had worked as hard as Henderson did last night we would have won.

I suppose kicking 14.22 would have been a winning score.


Whilst I may have agreed with you on most things in the match day summary I am totally in disagreement with you summation of Henderson and the empirical evidence you choose to use you blame squarely on Hendo.

Jimmae look at the statistical truths and see if you can summon a portion of the blame on the midfield. That's where I see as the major problem. Get the ball tick. Pass to one of our own tick. Get caught stopped and pressured and the ball didn't go to the forward line, nor to outside runners coz there weren't any and defensively another 2 out of 10.

The ball didn't get to our forward line for long long periods. When our mids were presenting in the forward line (at times adding to the congestion) their disposal was just rubbish.

Hendo was guilty of missing some 50/50 marking contests that he would normally be elite when in red hot form but they were 50/50 high lobs in the air. Those sort of passes are for the likes of Casboult types. The mids served up nothing or crap...not Hendos doing.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:53 pm 
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jim wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Apparently Boek didn't get a sniff today.
Whiley was really good apparently. Jaksch and Whiley might be good value for pick 7.


He was a shining light today, pretty good for a kid off a limited pre season, first gane back. Limited game time today to help ease him back, but we have something to work with there. Doubt he has the fitness base to go around at Subi, but he'll be in sooner than later.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:57 pm 
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jim wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Apparently Boek didn't get a sniff today.
Whiley was really good apparently. Jaksch and Whiley might be good value for pick 7.


He was a shining light today, pretty good for a kid off a limited pre season, first gane back. Limited game time today to help ease him back, but we have something to work with there. Doubt he has the fitness base to go around at Subi, but he'll be in sooner than later.


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