yeah plodders is harsh. I meant no real outside game or quality.

maybe one dimensional is more accurate? They win the ball, they tackle hard, or lock down their man. But, they're not good users or thinkers with the ball, they'll never step a man, or sell some candy like Yarran, Judd or even Daisy will. Not creative or dynamic like say Buckley or the bit of Boekhurst we saw.

Just been to G surface should be fantastic car park certainly very firm - a bit breezy but rain seems to have held off -perfect night - do it for us boys