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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:10 am 
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B. Buckley Jamison Touhy

HB. Everitt Rowe Docherty

C. Simpson Gibbs Thomas

HF. Bell Henderson Jaksch

F. Menzel Jones Yarran

R. Wood Judd Murphy

I. Carrazzo Cripps Curnow

S. Boekhorst

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:40 am 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
B. Buckley Jamison Touhy

HB. Everitt Rowe Docherty

C. Simpson Gibbs Thomas

HF. Bell Henderson Jaksch

F. Menzel Jones Yarran

R. Wood Judd Murphy

I. Carrazzo Cripps Curnow

S. Boekhorst


actually isn't such a bad team on paper. I don't think boekhorst has shown enough, would have thought clem smith would be a better sub

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:36 pm 
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..BB more versatile I think, good height for a few more roles..

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:39 pm 
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Read the preview mags from The West and The Sunday Times today. Consensus is we will struggle and many picked us to finish bottom 4.

I have my concern too but bottom 4? Won't be able to handle it if we end up being that bad.

The last 2 seasons we have started 1-3 and 0-4. Would be nothing short of catastrophic if we start like that again.

Extremely important to get early wins, starting Thurs.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:21 am 
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jimmae wrote:
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I'm sorry but if Casboult plays on form, all of these trades and structural alterations are for nothing because we're still hamstrung by our 2nd ruck situation.

I know you are a Warnock fan and I'm not but you couldn't possibly play Warnock ever again. He gives us nothing at all away from the odd stoppage.
Casbuolt is not as good as a tap ruckman but is better in every other aspect of the game by a mile. Kicking I'm not sure about. Last time I saw Warnock kick at goal he cost us a final from seven metres out.

I am not a Warnock fan at all; not sure where you got that from. Our current ruck stocks are @#$%&! awful beyond Kreuzer depsite the immense talent between the three of them. We should be using Rowe as a second ruck and rotating Henderson into defence as needed.

Had all 3 of them lived up to their potential, one wouldn't be at the club and we'd play 2 of them in the side. As it is we'll probably keep Wood around for another year or two and recruit a young ruck and a 21-23 year old ruck next year.

Sorry.
I have subsequently read some of your stuff re: Warnock and must have confused you in my mind with someone else.
I don't think Rowe is the option.
IMO Wood and Casboult as Bondi outlined it above is the best option.
Wood is no Cox but he is honest and has a crack. Even takes marks and kicks goals. Marick will have an impact. We have to concede that. We've had shite ruck stocks for years. Time to do something about it. I thought Hampson was going to come on...
Casboult is the same but camped in the square provides us with a great marking option and a hedache for opposition coaches.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:48 am 
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MPH78 wrote:
Read the preview mags from The West and The Sunday Times today. Consensus is we will struggle and many picked us to finish bottom 4.

I have my concern too but bottom 4? Won't be able to handle it if we end up being that bad.

The last 2 seasons we have started 1-3 and 0-4. Would be nothing short of catastrophic if we start like that again.

Extremely important to get early wins, starting Thurs.



Nobody giving us a chance at all eh?!

What more do you expect from west australian afl journalism?


Agree, important game to put away and swagger off into the sunset.

Won't be easy and neither will any other. Except for the saints I suppose. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:17 am 
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Wood or Warnock?

I think they will need to go with Warnock. Wood is better around the ground however he just cannot get his hands on it at the centre bounce. The game will be won in the middle. At least Warnock will give our onballers a chance.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:23 am 
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..wood is 204, he ismt that much shorter than knockers, a ruck needs to be involved around the ground and offer something up forward..

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:49 am 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..wood is 204, he ismt that much shorter than knockers, a ruck needs to be involved around the ground and offer something up forward..


I wasn't comparing their height. If Warnock was 199cm I would still be saying the same thing. Warnock is a better tap ruckmen. Wood rarely wins a tap in the middle at the centre bounce. Like I said, this is where the game will be won. If Wood plays then Miles, Cotchin, Delidio, Martin et al will have the ball on a string.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:22 am 
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The problem is that over the last couple of seasons Warnocks taps have rarely been to Carlton's advantage

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:30 am 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
jimmae wrote:
Blue Sombrero wrote:
jimmae wrote:
I'm sorry but if Casboult plays on form, all of these trades and structural alterations are for nothing because we're still hamstrung by our 2nd ruck situation.

I know you are a Warnock fan and I'm not but you couldn't possibly play Warnock ever again. He gives us nothing at all away from the odd stoppage.
Casbuolt is not as good as a tap ruckman but is better in every other aspect of the game by a mile. Kicking I'm not sure about. Last time I saw Warnock kick at goal he cost us a final from seven metres out.

I am not a Warnock fan at all; not sure where you got that from. Our current ruck stocks are @#$%&! awful beyond Kreuzer depsite the immense talent between the three of them. We should be using Rowe as a second ruck and rotating Henderson into defence as needed.

Had all 3 of them lived up to their potential, one wouldn't be at the club and we'd play 2 of them in the side. As it is we'll probably keep Wood around for another year or two and recruit a young ruck and a 21-23 year old ruck next year.

Sorry.
I have subsequently read some of your stuff re: Warnock and must have confused you in my mind with someone else.
I don't think Rowe is the option.
IMO Wood and Casboult as Bondi outlined it above is the best option.
Wood is no Cox but he is honest and has a crack. Even takes marks and kicks goals. Marick will have an impact. We have to concede that. We've had shite ruck stocks for years. Time to do something about it. I thought Hampson was going to come on...
Casboult is the same but camped in the square provides us with a great marking option and a hedache for opposition coaches.

Casboult isn't smart enough in his patterns to have a 1v1 in the square often enough, and isn't skilful enough to be able to work his opponent off at any opportunity and score from wide angles.

Needs to improve in both, and sooner rather than later.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:32 am 
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Clayman wrote:
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..wood is 204, he ismt that much shorter than knockers, a ruck needs to be involved around the ground and offer something up forward..


I wasn't comparing their height. If Warnock was 199cm I would still be saying the same thing. Warnock is a better tap ruckmen. Wood rarely wins a tap in the middle at the centre bounce. Like I said, this is where the game will be won. If Wood plays then Miles, Cotchin, Delidio, Martin et al will have the ball on a string.

Actually I think it will be won through who counter-attacks better as well as the odd centre bounce tearaway. Wood offers more in every other aspect. I think he'll play.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:53 am 
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Actually I think it will be won by the team who kicks the highest score.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:14 am 
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Clayman wrote:
Actually I think it will be won by the team who kicks the highest score.

Nah mate; it's Supercoach scores.

Interestingly, where do you think Warnock delivers this higher-scoring advantage?

Is it at the stoppages where he was sixth in league for average hitouts, but only 25% of hitouts go to advantage (somewhere below every other starting ruck in the league and then some)?

Is it up forward where he averages well less than a contested mark per game, and in fact averages less than one mark per game?

Is it around the ground, where averages less than 9 disposals per game?

Warnock being useful has been a myth since about 2011, which is the last he was useful. He is as inconsistent as they come and he needs to show something new at VFL before he should get a foot in the door. Bring Hampson back please.

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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-30/g ... medium=RSS

CARLTON star Bryce Gibbs appears on track for Thursday night's season-opening blockbuster against Richmond, and coach Mick Malthouse could unleash a pair of draftees on the big stage at the MCG, onballer Andrew Carrazzo says.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:13 am 
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boekhorst and smith

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:04 pm 
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boekhorst and smith

Sounds like. Definitely no White then, who is the other regular set to miss? Curnow?

Big call.

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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-30/gibbs-looks-set-for-opener?utm_medium=RSS

CARLTON star Bryce Gibbs appears on track for Thursday night's season-opening blockbuster against Richmond, and coach Mick Malthouse could unleash a pair of draftees on the big stage at the MCG, onballer Andrew Carrazzo says.


They used the term " an embarrassment of riches" when talking about our list. :razz:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:55 pm 
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I reckon one of Boekhurst and Smith.

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Effes wrote:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-30/gibbs-looks-set-for-opener?utm_medium=RSS

CARLTON star Bryce Gibbs appears on track for Thursday night's season-opening blockbuster against Richmond, and coach Mick Malthouse could unleash a pair of draftees on the big stage at the MCG, onballer Andrew Carrazzo says.

"It's certainly going to be a challenge for us and it's a huge stage – the whole country's going to be watching us," Carrazzo said. :lol: The whole Country!!


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