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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:59 am 
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Anyone ever bothered to count how many calf injuries Ellard and Carrazzo have had over the last 5 years? I'm sure it's a ridiculous number.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:01 pm 
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..not a good pair between them.. ..calves..

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Wouldn't Carrazzo's be the same ongoing injury that never quite heals?

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 Post subject: Re: Injury List
PostPosted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:22 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
Wouldn't Carrazzo's be the same ongoing injury that never quite heals?

Seems to be the same story for Ellard, who had recurring knee issues before that.

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Had to happen. As soon as you got the Crow re no injuries, you are doomed. Top 8 to bottom 4 in two weeks :yikes:


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 Post subject: Re: Injury List
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:22 am 
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jimmae wrote:
Anyone ever bothered to count how many calf injuries Ellard and Carrazzo have had over the last 5 years? I'm sure it's a ridiculous number.


I would have thought you'd have a log of Ellard's injuries.

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And potentially responsible for several of them.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury List
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You caught me! I'm the shadowy figure who hangs out at the bottom of the Pratt stand every 2-4 months and hits Ellard in the calf with a wrench.

I... I can't stop...

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You caught me! I'm the shadowy figure who hangs out at the bottom of the Pratt stand every 2-4 months and hits Ellard in the calf with a wrench.

I... I can't stop...



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 Post subject: Re: Injury List
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..hopefully murphy's calf isnt going to be an on and off soft tissue injury..

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So thats where it is. Was looking under 'injury' in drop down menu for football....
Notice Kruze went from '6 weeks' to '5 weeks' over the space of two weeks....Surprisingly for everyone the injury may take longer to heal than first thought...
Still 5 weeks that actually takes 10 weeks is better than last year...


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 Post subject: Re: Injury List
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:30 am 
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Just reading around the details of MKs "hairline" 5th metatarsal fracture, in the context of his other foot problems.

These are stress fractures not just sudden impact injuries. They are actually worse than clean sudden breaks because the bone repairing stimulus from clean breaks is much greater and leads to quicker healing. The moon boot for 6 weeks is actually hope and pray. Many of these stress fractures don't heal and drag on and on, months, even years. If they don't heal they need a bone graft or serious anabolic help. I know a little more about this than from my usual medical training because my own son, now 21 had recurrent stress fractures in his tibia that just wouldn't heal and finished his football career. James Hird would have been finished if it wasn't for Dr Charter.

Why the epidemic of foot stress fractures? Who knows, 100 plus kilo giants doing intense sprint and jump work, softer and softer and lighter boots (my theory) which don't support the foot? Training overload? Don't think Big Nick ever had a foot stress fracture.

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..big nick wasn't that big, not by today's ruck man standards..

....krooz should take a fitness 'holiday' and dank his foot better..

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RickJ wrote:
Just reading around the details of MKs "hairline" 5th metatarsal fracture, in the context of his other foot problems.

These are stress fractures not just sudden impact injuries. They are actually worse than clean sudden breaks because the bone repairing stimulus from clean breaks is much greater and leads to quicker healing. The moon boot for 6 weeks is actually hope and pray. Many of these stress fractures don't heal and drag on and on, months, even years. If they don't heal they need a bone graft or serious anabolic help. I know a little more about this than from my usual medical training because my own son, now 21 had recurrent stress fractures in his tibia that just wouldn't heal and finished his football career. James Hird would have been finished if it wasn't for Dr Charter.

Why the epidemic of foot stress fractures? Who knows, 100 plus kilo giants doing intense sprint and jump work, softer and softer and lighter boots (my theory) which don't support the foot? Training overload? Don't think Big Nick ever had a foot stress fracture.

Let's all hope like hell that Matthew has some luck with spontaneous healing

He's taken a lot of that weight off but some of the damage has been done. That said his pain thresh hold is what sets him apart from other big men and gave him that huge aerobic/anaerobic advantage in the first place.

It's an issue of genetics, player management, work ethic and luck. I'd say there was some mismanagement but luck played a part too. As we move forward that random element will diminish across the board as medicine and science continue to make strides.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury List
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jimmae wrote:
RickJ wrote:
Just reading around the details of MKs "hairline" 5th metatarsal fracture, in the context of his other foot problems.

These are stress fractures not just sudden impact injuries. They are actually worse than clean sudden breaks because the bone repairing stimulus from clean breaks is much greater and leads to quicker healing. The moon boot for 6 weeks is actually hope and pray. Many of these stress fractures don't heal and drag on and on, months, even years. If they don't heal they need a bone graft or serious anabolic help. I know a little more about this than from my usual medical training because my own son, now 21 had recurrent stress fractures in his tibia that just wouldn't heal and finished his football career. James Hird would have been finished if it wasn't for Dr Charter.

Why the epidemic of foot stress fractures? Who knows, 100 plus kilo giants doing intense sprint and jump work, softer and softer and lighter boots (my theory) which don't support the foot? Training overload? Don't think Big Nick ever had a foot stress fracture.

Let's all hope like hell that Matthew has some luck with spontaneous healing

He's taken a lot of that weight off but some of the damage has been done. That said his pain thresh hold is what sets him apart from other big men and gave him that huge aerobic/anaerobic advantage in the first place.

It's an issue of genetics, player management, work ethic and luck. I'd say there was some mismanagement but luck played a part too. As we move forward that random element will diminish across the board as medicine and science continue to make strides.


Some parts of the foot have terrible blood supply (mainly the 'navicular') which is another reason why it is so difficult to heal. It must be so frustrating.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury List
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:52 pm 
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Indeed, but that's not unique to Kreuzer and while it may or may not fall under 'luck' presently (I can't possibly comment), the right treatment at the right site would likely assist.

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..I think across the league there's some agreed negligence.. ..players get rushed back from injuries too quickly, especially so when you measure the recovery times against the same injuries in other, more professionally run sports.. .... ..and the young tall players across the league are braking down far more frequently and regularly as well..

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..I think across the league there's some agreed negligence.. ..players get rushed back from injuries too quickly, especially so when you measure the recovery times against the same injuries in other, more professionally run sports.. .... ..and the young tall players across the league are braking down far more frequently and regularly as well..


Im hearing you BKB.

But youve got to consider genetics.
This is what we're praying it isnt.

I'm with RickJ.
Sadly enough, I love your post RickJ! :thumbsup:

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