Its hilarious watching Watto on the last line of defense, Casboult kicking at goal, Warnock trying to take a mark is real funny to watch, actually we are more entertaining when we lose and boring when we win!

Unfortunately none of this is a surprise. I sent an email pre Christmas to Steven Trigg expressing amongst other things how alienated I feel from the Club.

There was no response from Steven, however I did receive a call from a senior member of the membership dept. We had a pleasant conversation for about 20mins where I told him how I felt that there was a significant disconnect between club and barracker/supporter/member. I also gave examples of how we are not only losing old diehard supporters but also losing a generation of young supporters that we will never recover.

These thoughts were batted back with "lets agree to disagree" or give us an opportunity, you will notice change for the good in the upcoming months.

The most disturbing part was the view that once we start winning things will start to right themselves.

I cant help but feel there is absolutely no sustainable plan to get us out of this predicament.

SMUG

They really dont care.

It all changes when we're wining games? Is that what they're waiting for. Are they waving the white flag?

When we get to 50,000 members in consecutive years is that a win?
I'm guessing all the clubs ahead of us (at least 10K ahead of us) will be further ahead...ao is that still a win for us?

How does the club measure its success? Against itself or against the competition?
The AFL is a competition right?

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OK number 1
Were a crap club.. We do everything crap.. That's why we look like crap
Number 2 They have believed for a long time that when we are winning people will jump back on board...
Number 3 crap clubs don't win... To win you have to be a good club.
Their lazy mentality is all about putting the cart before the horse...
The club has always maintained it will be a powerhouse when it wins again.
So they're looking for silver bullets.
A player here.. A coach there..

Laughable

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Looks to be sad but true.

All this negativity is so boring, instead of all these fake "Carlton Supporters" constantly bagging our players, coaches and the people on the board who devote all their time to run & manage our club gratis! We should all stand as one and support the team we have by number 1 becoming a member, 2 encourage our friends & family that are Carlton supporters to become members, 3 turn up to the games and cheer out loud for our team
You can't blame individual people at our club ; stuff Waite, Robinson , Fevola & others who only cared of themselves as individuals
We can make a difference by uniting as one , the team will do the rest!!!

I have not read a blog on this website for months because it's way too negative and it's all coming from our own tribe, we have to become much more positive and hopefully it will all spread through the club
SUCCESS BREADS SUCCESS

NEGATIVITY IS AS BAD AS CANCER

C'mon Blue Baggers!!!!

No. it isn't.
It's good to vent actually.
pretending it's all ok is plain stupid, and means nothing will improve.
You sound like Apple saying everything is ok, after some journos snuck into the factory in China and participated in appalling work conditions.
Also, try baking a new bread if you want success.
Maybe sourdough.
No one is asking these board members to work gratis. It doesn't entitle them to be there. they weren't voted in by the frikkin' one tribe you say we are.
It's all pretend stuff.
Let' get excited about Watto, and Everitt. Let's bag anyone who at least made the game fun to watch while we lost continually.
Good on ya!

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Carlton raise their game on membership drive

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/carlton- ... 3wd6i.html

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

At least that smug Clinton Brown has to report to Clark now. First step to hopefully moving him on.

You know, call me crazy, but another year ticks over, and I say to myself: Must renew my family's 4 memberships,
and I do.

I do, because I am a Carlton supporter, and anyone here who does not can &^%$ off now.

I do not care who is on this current board and, at the end of the day, don't really care who is on the playing list, as they are all but passing through.

As a 7 year old, I remember sitting with my grand father at the G in 68. He had seen all the other flags. He was born around 1880.

He was, I am, and my children are, Carlton supporters.

I don't need anything other than watching MY team run out on the ground and play footy.

ps: I'll stand if I have to.

^^THIS^^

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

yeah everybody has free will

they see me as a consumer..... fine... im a consumer now....

so i look at the product and i just judge the product like i judge anything i buy

it doesnt stack up... so i dont part with cash ...

i also know if i give it money.. it will continue to run itself into the ground.. and situations like this dont arise so the spotlight isnt thrust upon them....

i know.. that if people dnt buy the product... the product then will need to be examined...


i see footy as a product...and they see me as a consumer...

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With all due respect Synbad, please see my post above.

One question, and one question only....

When was the last time you paid to be a Carlton Member?

I have been a member since 1980 and a premium reserve seat holder since the Elliott stand was erected. I have converted my partner who was Geelong supporter. Our kids are also members though are no longer interested. I also buy extras. Up until probably 5-6 years ago I was on autopilot when it came to renewing however these last few years it has felt more like my "duty" to sign up.

I no longer feel that "duty". I doubt I will be a member next year as I don't believe the people in charge have the answer. blindly following is not me any longer.

cimm,
you are cracking me up today.



eric pascoe, I'm a paid up member..as always, I was ok through quite a lot of years where we haven't done well..
hec, i used to get excited when we won the Nab cup..or whatever it was called then..
not so excited these days.
I don't expect us to win.
I feel we've been conditioned to not expect too much
I still think there'll be some great moments through the season, but there's not a lot to be inspired about right now.

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i was a paid up member till around 2009 i think it was... anyway.. whatever was rattens second season as coach..

from then i knew where this club was heading... you can read it all in here... and i havent been wrong...

but i was never going to support a club that makes the same mistakes over and over.. allows a guy like sticks as prez.. nd ratten as coach

keep in mind i was too close to the club back then... and i always tell people to not get too close it will spoil things

ignorance is bliss

but from around 2002 onwards i saw so many scary things about our club...

first i was in denial... they know what theyre doing.. but over time.. it was the same things repeating over and over.. just as u see me doing here... and complain

but nobody cares when the club does it over and over...same mistakes...

its hope.. and people love hope... it means they might win tattslotto
problem is there is no planning... only hope...

and over and above that.. ive seen the connect from those in charge of the club to the members.. erode over time...

even down the great ocean road... there are no longer 12 apostles... the london bridge is no longer a bridge...
those things stood there for eons... with more mates.. but time and a pounding changed all that... there will b a day when u drive down the great ocean road and there is nothing but sea ..... that day is coming fast....
youre blaming the standstone/ limeston for not being strong enough to handle whats thrown at it...

think about this....

any kind under 27 or so today could not know a flag.... the club has been eroded....

and its no longer a club

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spend money on family carlton memberships and get very little to nothing in return...

or

spend money on family season passes to theme parks...

what do the kids choose do you think?

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I bought a three game membership with money from my first job and have renewed every year since, gradually getting more access to games every year. Now, I had no AFL supporting immediate family and I assume I jumped on the Blues bandwagon around 1995 as my younger cousins have done with Geelong and Hawthorn of late (much to my dismay).

The lack of success since the salary cap scandal has probably cost us half a generation in normal supporter numbers and on top of that we've not put in the correct strategies up to this point to ensure we can counteract that loss with better engagement. The Hawks are a club that mastered success in all areas while the Tigers and Bulldogs right now in my opinion are selling hope and engaging their fans the best.

Carlton fans know what success looks like, we've also stuck by with the club in tough times....maybe the toughest, after Melbourne in recent years but what has really driven the salt in our wounds is the total waste made of the last five years at board level and on field. We expected success after Judd and promise from a handful of others but instead of striving for excellence we stagnated in relation to the competition and fell behind again.

Can't sit on our hands and expect on field success to drive numbers up. As Synbad said, a crap club breeds a crap team. Look at Geelong, Hawthorn and Sydney make moves every year to exploit systems where they give essentially nothing for quality. Trigg has made a start but I'm convinced the board thinks of supporters as spoiled brats that won't sign when other club supporters do, instead of critically analysing themselves.

The video one of the Pratt associated board members made a while back about what Carlton meant to him really made me sick to my stomach...they're not passionate or driven enough to innovate. The unnecessary pressure put on Rogers really shows how little they know about the club and what future success resembles at the grass roots, because that's where we hopefully are right now.

Dane, BG and Zee have all been negative about the club in this thread.

IT IS THE END OF TIMES

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