Agree!!! He's barely played in the last 3 years...

Cripps and Whiley should be playing before him...

And we should be drafting midfielders, and more mids...

We have a missing generation of midfielders!!

The stolen generation!

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You can't catch that kind of thing up. Is different altogether if you're bringing in one or two good players per year compared to delisting whole draft after whole drafts.
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Our best draft was 2011. Bootsma buckley and rowe

I dont think a lot of teams have brilliant drafts. Usually 2-3 players become long career players. Most of them come from early rounds in draft though. We have delisted, traded or sacked due to snapchat

Our midfield was ranked very highly at the end of 2012..ranked 3rd in the league from memory

Our forwards were ranked 2nd in the league. Our defense was poor though, ranked 14th.

The top 3 midfield/Rucks at the end of 2012 were
1. Pies
2. Swans
3. Blues

A team is often exposed if it has a big weakness especially in Finals. And we had the worst kind of weakness - a poor and leaking defense.

the Swans in 2012 had the 3rd best defense and 2nd best midfield/rucks and they won the flag with the 11th worst forward line. The Swans managed about 14 goals in the 2012 GF and about 10 came from their midfield and defense.

A question needs to be asked of Malthouse's 2 years, where have we improved relative to the rest of the competition? we have certainly been overtaken in the forwards (ranked 2nd) and midfield (ranked 3rd). maybe our defense has improved from way back in the field (14th)

The flip side of the coin, could be that we may begin to see consistency this year or next year.

But I will wait for the season to unfold fully before making judgement.

I don't trust the playing group and its fickle culture and lack of internal honesty and strength of leadership (weak points which seem to have permeated the entire the club). These structural defects can be repaired and turned into great strengths (we saw it at Geelong in 2006), but I will wait and see what this club shows during the season ladies and gentlemen

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I was one of the few who mentored white in a positive way. He was his usual determined and committed self. Took one nice contested mark slotted the resulting shot at goal.

Got a fair bit of the footy but his decision making was hit it long and hope for the best.

Sometimes this is unfair on the kicker because on telly you can't see what the rest of the team is doing in giving the kicker options.

But it did have several long turn overs which made for frustrating viewing.

I thought KJ was excellent and thouhy was serviceable. Rowe and Simmo were very poor by their standards. Even more so given they were the only leadership group members out there.

We did have a very young side out there ... and I certainly did not expect us to win ... and I understand that its only the start ... and that we have some seasoned players to put into that side.

All these things are true ... BUT ... from what I understood, the Madhouse has been busy instilling a game plan all summer long.

I saw no evidence of any game plan ... it was utter crap. The Madhouse has taken 'the bomb' to a new level. Hopefully this is all a trick ... after all he is Tricky Micky. He must have something up his sleeve?

Surely 1 premiership in the last 19 years means something.

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Top 3? Where you pulling that stat from. We were injury plagued that year
if true, then that is why micky would of took the job thinking the window was open.

How do you know why he would of took the job? He might of came to make a difference and could of went to other clubs.

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I remember the days that Kouta was a hack and then he become a god...dont think bell will get to god status but he will make an impact

Highlight for me was Lucas getting the ball 10 meters out from goal, plenty of space, and spraying the ball across the face. That was at the goal scoring end too. Learned that at Carlton.

Close second would be KJ - will be a player, will play round 1 onwards.
Smith - will be a player, dunno how many games he gets this year though.

Lowlight was Bell. Wins his own ball, can also link up on the spread.. has a massive kick on him... then makes shitful decisions every, single, time. Immature though, so might still come good.

But yeah, a team full of rookies and recent (kid) draft picks that had to travel to the other side of the country and face a home side who were close to full strength and who also played last week in shitful blowy conditions with the senior coach not present. Definitely massive cause for alarm

We should have been belted by 10+ goals. Eagles suck. Absolutely nothing to come out of that game to say we suck.

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I don't remember the days kouta was a hack Sandra..

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Official Champion Data for the end of the 2012 season, had Carlton with the 3rd best midfield/rucks, 2nd best forwards and the 14th best defense.

we always need to be careful of stastical analyses becuase often the numbers can distort was is actually going on. The quality of possessions for example. There are clearances and there is also this other indicator called "clearances"

Nevertheless that's were champion data had our midfield ranked.

That year the swans knocked off the Hawks in the grand final. The Hawks midfield was ranked 9th in the league with the swans ranked 2nd. That's were the game was won. The swans midfield kicked about 7 or 8 goals in the 2012 GF, whilst the Hawks midfield didn't kick any. In a close game that was decided in the final minute, the performance of the swans midfield was crucial.

The Hawks recognised that weakness. They recruited Ratten for that very reason IMO (ratten may well be an ordinary overall team coach, but he does know how to organise a midfield and extract some attacking moves from it). In 2012 the Hawks list quality was ranked 1st in the league. It's not surprising that when they sorted out the midfield/rucks they snared back to back flags. They also reversed their losing streak against the cats in the 2013 finals.

When a coach takes over a list there will always be structural and players changes. But most importantly he needs to be positive, creative, gain the respect and trust of the playing group etc (see Ken, and what he did with the port list in 2012 which had a confidence level shot to pieces and ranked in the dungeons.)

We as a club make a lot of excuses from top to bottom....I wonder when that will change?

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Well I think it's good all the new guys have played a competitive game together.
That in itself is a big positive as they'll take a lot out of it and be more comfortable next match...

Well that kinda makes sense why the hawks have two premierships back to back with Ratts as the midfield coach. You don't win a flag without a solid midfield and gameplan.

LOL MADHOUSE LOL HINKLEY LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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As you say, stats can tell you any story you want.

The poor defence is testament to when our downhill skiing mids where at their peak.

Sadly, I still worry about that today.

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