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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:18 pm 
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BigBlueWave wrote:
Hang on ... with the Super Duper coach its a 10 year plan.


The 'Blue Print' Strategic Plan has been thrown out. A new three-year plan being developed.


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Thanks for sharing the information Doc.
It will be interesting to see what the 3 year plan actually contains and what targets will be set on and off the field.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:39 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
BigBlueWave wrote:
Hang on ... with the Super Duper coach its a 10 year plan.


The 'Blue Print' Strategic Plan has been thrown out. A new three-year plan being developed.

bwahaha !!!


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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
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dooky wrote:
It's simple for me - though I know it won't happen - We need to be aiming for 10 picks inside the top 30 over the next 3 drafts! Whether that is 2014: 3 , 2015: 5, 2016: 2 or 4,3,3 - the breakdown is less important - i just want to see 10 quality first class kids come in and lets develop not just bloody poach everyone!


no problem with that plan...

but the development and leadership programs need to be first class. Similar to the Cats, Swans and Hawks.

Our recruits enter Visy Park and either stagnate or develop very slowly, or even develop in the wrong ways.

All starts with strong leadership culture and honesty right through the organisation. Our biggest weakness.

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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
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DocSherrin wrote:
BigBlueWave wrote:
Hang on ... with the Super Duper coach its a 10 year plan.


The 'Blue Print' Strategic Plan has been thrown out. A new three-year plan being developed.


Are you having a say in it's development?

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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:07 pm 
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Seeing as it's a 3 year plan, I would like to see 3 points of focus

1. Restructure the organizational chart from board to boot studder to achieve better efficacy throughout club, so that correct decisions are made in timely manner.

2. Re Engage with members and supporters to hand over ownership of the club back to the fans. They should be first and foremost in the thought of every decision that the club makes and their welfare should be placed ahead of all the players, coaches and officials within the club.

3. I hate the use of the word culture, so I will break that up to what it means to me. Players need to be challenged to play hard, uncompromised, committed and unselfish football with no excuses for those that don't. We have not demanded enough from our players over the last decade and we have blamed coaches, recruiters, development and board for the poor results that we have had far too often. I will argue that 90% of the time, we have players who have walked off the field with something left in the tank and this MUST stop if we want to build the CULTURE that we demand.


If we can just get those 3 right, I think we will be a long way down the path of restoring our great club back to the powerhouse it once was.


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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:48 pm 
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It's the supporting points I'm more interested in.

It's all very well to stay where we want to be but what the steps being taken to get there?

Drafting is the not the only thing.

Culture's a nebulous word but it embraces things like the attitude of professionalism, the attitude of hunger for success.

One of the first interview questions I'd throw at a young kid at draft camp would be "What do you want to achieve in football and how will you achieve it?" They'll all say "a premiership" but it's how they've thought about getting there that's important. Leaders and those with the right attitude will have thought about it. Those who are just there for the pay cheque or the lifestyle won't have.

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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
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Do any of the committee who endorsed the laughable Blue Print plan take responsibility for its fatuous content and failure to achieve any of its goals? If not why would we trust what is pretty much the same group to produce a reasonable 3 year plan. Sure we have anew CEO but the committee has barely changed since the Blue Print. It is still the same group of dilettante relatives of rich people. I'd love a board challenge to remove the Pratt and Mathieson factions who seem to think our club is their plaything.


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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
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It's simple for me - though I know it won't happen - We need to be aiming for 10 picks inside the top 30 over the next 3 drafts! Whether that is 2014: 3 , 2015: 5, 2016: 2 or 4,3,3 - the breakdown is less important - i just want to see 10 quality first class kids come in and lets develop not just bloody poach everyone!



With you 100% Dookie, but we are Carlton, we won't do what is long term.


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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
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It's a pretty simple five-step process really...

1. We're
2. Carlton
3. @#$%&!
4. The
5. Rest

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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:29 pm 
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CarltonClem wrote:

One of the first interview questions I'd throw at a young kid at draft camp would be "What do you want to achieve in football and how will you achieve it?" They'll all say "a premiership" but it's how they've thought about getting there that's important. Leaders and those with the right attitude will have thought about it. Those who are just there for the pay cheque or the lifestyle won't have.


Yes, I agree.


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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
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gerry atric wrote:
Do any of the committee who endorsed the laughable Blue Print plan take responsibility for its fatuous content and failure to achieve any of its goals? If not why would we trust what is pretty much the same group to produce a reasonable 3 year plan. Sure we have anew CEO but the committee has barely changed since the Blue Print. It is still the same group of dilettante relatives of rich people. I'd love a board challenge to remove the Pratt and Mathieson factions who seem to think our club is their plaything.


well we now see it as the theoretical wank that any half-wit could see though. was pure kernahan BS
anyone who watched utopia would see it something that that peanut jim and the bearded 4-eyed turnup would produce.

sad thing is that someone got paid big bucks to produce and they all believed it - tell him he's dreaming!!

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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
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I have to add I did cop mention of Carlton's 20 year (insert 30 year, 40 year and 50 year ) Plans from hawthorn fans on GF Day.


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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
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My 5 year plan.


Throw everybody out and start from scratch.
Seems a bit harsh but in all honesty im getting sick of this clubs direction.


Why can we not develop our players not only as footballers but as men?
Christ, just this year we've had Jeffrey, Bootsma and Robbo all act like absoulte flower. What the hell is going on at Carlton?

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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:18 pm 
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Re Garlett, Robinson and Bootsma - lets be thankful we now have the sense to boot these guys from the club quicksmart . Who knows whether this would have been the case under Ratten? I think players are far more aware of the standards set re discipline and work ethic under Malthouse than previously - Garlett, Lucas even Waite were all talented but Mick wanted them to work harder and they wouldn't - know they are gone or on the verge of being gone. To me, at the very least , Malthouse has brought about a significant shift in imprinting on the players the required attitude to play senior football. Would anyone disagree?

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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
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dooky wrote:
Re Garlett, Robinson and Bootsma - lets be thankful we now have the sense to boot these guys from the club quicksmart . Who knows whether this would have been the case under Ratten? I think players are far more aware of the standards set re discipline and work ethic under Malthouse than previously - Garlett, Lucas even Waite were all talented but Mick wanted them to work harder and they wouldn't - know they are gone or on the verge of being gone. To me, at the very least , Malthouse has brought about a significant shift in imprinting on the players the required attitude to play senior football. Would anyone disagree?

Yes.

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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:28 pm 
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Care to elaborate?

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 Post subject: Re: The '5 year plan'
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dooky wrote:
Care to elaborate?

Is that directed to me?

If so, you asked if anyone would disagree. And I said Yes; i.e there are some that would disagree. Pretty straightforward I think.

BTW, I'm not one of them obviously. But check out Big Blue Wave, Rexy, Goltzenberg, Redback for example. Oh, and if you want some intelligent disagreement, check out Blue Vain.

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