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dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

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Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:58 pm

Trigger wrote:

The coward buckley throwing everyone under the bus ala hird to cover for his own incompetence. Still bagging buttifant, know doubt making lappin a scape goat, last year it was thomas, shaw, ect ect injuries ect ect. The rat pack.
But it is his list now according to the press since the beginning of the year.
COWARD!!!!

How many assistant coaches did Malthouse shaft
How many players did he let go
Bucks is no different to any other coach

Trigger · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:06 am **Posts:** 1826

Sydney Blue wrote:

Trigger wrote:

The coward buckley throwing everyone under the bus ala hird to cover for his own incompetence. Still bagging buttifant, know doubt making lappin a scape goat, last year it was thomas, shaw, ect ect injuries ect ect. The rat pack.
But it is his list now according to the press since the beginning of the year.
COWARD!!!!

How many assistant coaches did Malthouse shaft
How many players did he let go
Bucks is no different to any other coach

But as per my statement above ( If you stop being selective to suit your own agenda)he blames everyone else bar his own incompetence, i have not heard mm publicly mentioning we were not fit enough after he shafted a fitness coach,and then repeats it again at the end of the year. I have not heard mm mentioning we had to change the culture after he let a few players go, but your mate buckley rattles off excuses at nauseum, like the tripe you dish out over and over and over again.
Next year he will sacrifice the tea lady because she was not serving the tea up at the right temperature, but hang on i have employed my own tea lady this time,it is my tea lady not micks, but it may take a few years to get the players used to the change.

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:32 pm

Trigger wrote:

Sydney Blue wrote:

Trigger wrote:

The coward buckley throwing everyone under the bus ala hird to cover for his own incompetence. Still bagging buttifant, know doubt making lappin a scape goat, last year it was thomas, shaw, ect ect injuries ect ect. The rat pack.
But it is his list now according to the press since the beginning of the year.
COWARD!!!!

How many assistant coaches did Malthouse shaft
How many players did he let go
Bucks is no different to any other coach

But as per my statement above ( If you stop being selective to suit your own agenda)he blames everyone else bar his own incompetence, i have not heard mm publicly mentioning we were not fit enough after he shafted a fitness coach,and then repeats it again at the end of the year. I have not heard mm mentioning we had to change the culture after he let a few players go, but your mate buckley rattles off excuses at nauseum, like the tripe you dish out over and over and over again.
Next year he will sacrifice the tea lady because she was not serving the tea up at the right temperature, but hang on i have employed my own tea lady this time,it is my tea lady not micks, but it may take a few years to get the players used to the change.

So does Malthouse
Have you ever heard Malthouse say he made an error
Its not his coaching its the players he has.
Malthouse is the very worst at that

DocSherrin III · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:09 pm **Posts:** 17219

dane wrote:

:lol: within 16 seconds

Only thing is fellas....Barker isn't the forward line coach. Brad Green is.

Trigger · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:06 am **Posts:** 1826

Sydney Blue wrote:

Trigger wrote:

Sydney Blue wrote:

Trigger wrote:

The coward buckley throwing everyone under the bus ala hird to cover for his own incompetence. Still bagging buttifant, know doubt making lappin a scape goat, last year it was thomas, shaw, ect ect injuries ect ect. The rat pack.
But it is his list now according to the press since the beginning of the year.
COWARD!!!!

How many assistant coaches did Malthouse shaft
How many players did he let go
Bucks is no different to any other coach

But as per my statement above ( If you stop being selective to suit your own agenda)he blames everyone else bar his own incompetence, i have not heard mm publicly mentioning we were not fit enough after he shafted a fitness coach,and then repeats it again at the end of the year. I have not heard mm mentioning we had to change the culture after he let a few players go, but your mate buckley rattles off excuses at nauseum, like the tripe you dish out over and over and over again.
Next year he will sacrifice the tea lady because she was not serving the tea up at the right temperature, but hang on i have employed my own tea lady this time,it is my tea lady not micks, but it may take a few years to get the players used to the change.

So does Malthouse
Have you ever heard Malthouse say he made an error
Its not his coaching its the players he has.
Malthouse is the very worst at that

Keep regurgitating the same senseless rubbish over and over and over again.
By the way no i haven't heard mm say he made and error or his coaching is shit,but refer to my previous post if that is manageable I said your mate Buckley keeps blaming everyone else ,players,fitness coach, culture, rat pack , as I said it will be the tea lady next .

padre · **Joined:** Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:56 pm **Posts:** 934

Trigger wrote:

Sydney Blue wrote:

Trigger wrote:

The coward buckley throwing everyone under the bus ala hird to cover for his own incompetence. Still bagging buttifant, know doubt making lappin a scape goat, last year it was thomas, shaw, ect ect injuries ect ect. The rat pack.
But it is his list now according to the press since the beginning of the year.
COWARD!!!!

How many assistant coaches did Malthouse shaft
How many players did he let go
Bucks is no different to any other coach

But as per my statement above ( If you stop being selective to suit your own agenda)he blames everyone else bar his own incompetence, i have not heard mm publicly mentioning we were not fit enough after he shafted a fitness coach,and then repeats it again at the end of the year. I have not heard mm mentioning we had to change the culture after he let a few players go, but your mate buckley rattles off excuses at nauseum, like the tripe you dish out over and over and over again.
Next year he will sacrifice the tea lady because she was not serving the tea up at the right temperature, but hang on i have employed my own tea lady this time,it is my tea lady not micks, but it may take a few years to get the players used to the change.

Hard to be "fit " if you have injuries. Mature injured bodies replaced by immature bodies

london blue · **Joined:** Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:08 pm **Posts:** 3258

Sydney Blue wrote:

Trigger wrote:

Sydney Blue wrote:

Trigger wrote:

The coward buckley throwing everyone under the bus ala hird to cover for his own incompetence. Still bagging buttifant, know doubt making lappin a scape goat, last year it was thomas, shaw, ect ect injuries ect ect. The rat pack.
But it is his list now according to the press since the beginning of the year.
COWARD!!!!

How many assistant coaches did Malthouse shaft
How many players did he let go
Bucks is no different to any other coach

But as per my statement above ( If you stop being selective to suit your own agenda)he blames everyone else bar his own incompetence, i have not heard mm publicly mentioning we were not fit enough after he shafted a fitness coach,and then repeats it again at the end of the year. I have not heard mm mentioning we had to change the culture after he let a few players go, but your mate buckley rattles off excuses at nauseum, like the tripe you dish out over and over and over again.
Next year he will sacrifice the tea lady because she was not serving the tea up at the right temperature, but hang on i have employed my own tea lady this time,it is my tea lady not micks, but it may take a few years to get the players used to the change.

So does Malthouse
Have you ever heard Malthouse say he made an error
Its not his coaching its the players he has.
Malthouse is the very worst at that[/quote]

Now, rattle of the players who haven't wanted to work hard for him. Give me a handful of players that would bag him.........

Sydney, you'll struggle to validate your position that it's all about him

I've spoken personally with players from 3 of the 4 clubs he's has coached and all are a wrap.....he builds teams that unite under him.....

Cretylus · **Posted:** Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:51 am

london blue wrote:

Sydney Blue wrote:

Trigger wrote:

Sydney Blue wrote:

Trigger wrote:

The coward buckley throwing everyone under the bus ala hird to cover for his own incompetence. Still bagging buttifant, know doubt making lappin a scape goat, last year it was thomas, shaw, ect ect injuries ect ect. The rat pack.
But it is his list now according to the press since the beginning of the year.
COWARD!!!!

How many assistant coaches did Malthouse shaft
How many players did he let go
Bucks is no different to any other coach

But as per my statement above ( If you stop being selective to suit your own agenda)he blames everyone else bar his own incompetence, i have not heard mm publicly mentioning we were not fit enough after he shafted a fitness coach,and then repeats it again at the end of the year. I have not heard mm mentioning we had to change the culture after he let a few players go, but your mate buckley rattles off excuses at nauseum, like the tripe you dish out over and over and over again.
Next year he will sacrifice the tea lady because she was not serving the tea up at the right temperature, but hang on i have employed my own tea lady this time,it is my tea lady not micks, but it may take a few years to get the players used to the change.

So does Malthouse
Have you ever heard Malthouse say he made an error
Its not his coaching its the players he has.
Malthouse is the very worst at that[/quote]

Now, rattle of the players who haven't wanted to work hard for him. Give me a handful of players that would bag him.........

Sydney, you'll struggle to validate your position that it's all about him

I've spoken personally with players from 3 of the 4 clubs he's has coached and all are a wrap.....he builds teams that unite under him.....

...but surely your comments apply to any coach that has won a flag or had success

hollywood43 · **Posted:** Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:59 pm

How anyone can be talking up Malthouse is beyond me.
He has done nothing yet in his two seasons. 9th and 13th in his first two seasons
Hes the best deflector in the AFL.

muzza · **Joined:** Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:41 pm **Posts:** 2385

hollywood43 wrote:

How anyone can be talking up Malthouse is beyond me.
He has done nothing yet in his two seasons. 9th and 13th in his first two seasons
Hes the best deflector in the AFL.

An impending record number of games as coach together with a few Premierships will get you that.

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

The real Hollywood has returned!

TruBlueBrad · **Posted:** Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:45 am

Nice to see Mick has been a long term supporter of our sponsors.

Bluey44 · **Posted:** Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:43 pm

hollywood43 wrote:

How anyone can be talking up Malthouse is beyond me.
He has done nothing yet in his two seasons. 9th and 13th in his first two seasons
Hes the best deflector in the AFL.

Regardless of whether you are pro/anti Mick,
people are going to have to start getting used to the fact that premierships are going to get harder and harder to win under the current league format.

The assistance given to the new teams (on top of the obvious fact there are now 2 new competitors), along with free agency, will make flags harder to come by, and will entrench certain 'Organisations' in the top of the ladder for the long term.

It's not just simple footy anymore, it's more like an American or European league where successful corporations win more often than not.

We need to get the WHOLE organisation humming, not just the coach.

In the future there may be coaches who achieve miracles by getting their team to 8th, and then they will get poached to a good club, where the superior organisational environment means the coach's skills are put to best use in order to win a flag.

Things have changed.
If we were an awesome modern club (ala Geelong or Hawthorn) and Mick came along and got us to 8th or 13th, then we would be in our rights to sack him Manchester United style.
The problem is we were (and in some ways still are) a basketcase, at possibly (almost) the worst time in the history of the game to be a basketcase, and we are only improving at a marginal rate.
So in the context of our organisation, we are a bottom 10 organisation.
Until we are a top 8 or top 4 organisation, then there's no way you can isolate Mick as the cause of our underperformance.

So blaming Mick in isolation is useless. Getting Ratts back, or Vossy or Ling or Goodwin or whoever is trendy flavour of the month will not work in isolation.

Certain broken records on here keep talking about Hinkley - Take Koshie out of the equation, along with the bailouts from the AFL/SANFL/whoever else helped them, along with a major organisational reshuffle, then Port would be a rabble. They were very close to heading the same way as Melbourne.
Put Hinkley into a Mark Neeld type situation, and I bet he wouldn't be getting the hype he currently is.
He had a good opportunity at the perfect time which utilised his skills.
He was a good fit for a quickly improving organisation.

We need a President, board and staff that know what they are doing.
The last bunch clearly did not.
The new bunch are only half new - half recycled. Hopefully the tide is turning.

I'm happy that MLG is actively trying to poach people.
That will be the modern way - top tier clubs poaching talent from bottom tier clubs.
At some point money will become absolutely make or break too.
Teams like the Western Bulldogs may never win another flag.

We have to wake up and take a broader view than just the head coach.
The whole club needs to work well, every staff member needs to be under as much scrutiny as the head coach.

Sadly we aren't at that point.

bluegirl72 · **Joined:** Sat May 23, 2009 8:30 pm **Posts:** 23921

Bluey44 wrote:

hollywood43 wrote:

How anyone can be talking up Malthouse is beyond me.
He has done nothing yet in his two seasons. 9th and 13th in his first two seasons
Hes the best deflector in the AFL.

Regardless of whether you are pro/anti Mick,
people are going to have to start getting used to the fact that premierships are going to get harder and harder to win under the current league format.

The assistance given to the new teams (on top of the obvious fact there are now 2 new competitors), along with free agency, will make flags harder to come by, and will entrench certain 'Organisations' in the top of the ladder for the long term.

It's not just simple footy anymore, it's more like an American or European league where successful corporations win more often than not.

We need to get the WHOLE organisation humming, not just the coach.

In the future there may be coaches who achieve miracles by getting their team to 8th, and then they will get poached to a good club, where the superior organisational environment means the coach's skills are put to best use in order to win a flag.

Things have changed.
If we were an awesome modern club (ala Geelong or Hawthorn) and Mick came along and got us to 8th or 13th, then we would be in our rights to sack him Manchester United style.
The problem is we were (and in some ways still are) a basketcase, at possibly (almost) the worst time in the history of the game to be a basketcase, and we are only improving at a marginal rate.
So in the context of our organisation, we are a bottom 10 organisation.
Until we are a top 8 or top 4 organisation, then there's no way you can isolate Mick as the cause of our underperformance.

So blaming Mick in isolation is useless. Getting Ratts back, or Vossy or Ling or Goodwin or whoever is trendy flavour of the month will not work in isolation.

Certain broken records on here keep talking about Hinkley - Take Koshie out of the equation, along with the bailouts from the AFL/SANFL/whoever else helped them, along with a major organisational reshuffle, then Port would be a rabble. They were very close to heading the same way as Melbourne.
Put Hinkley into a Mark Neeld type situation, and I bet he wouldn't be getting the hype he currently is.
He had a good opportunity at the perfect time which utilised his skills.
He was a good fit for a quickly improving organisation.

We need a President, board and staff that know what they are doing.
The last bunch clearly did not.
The new bunch are only half new - half recycled. Hopefully the tide is turning.

I'm happy that MLG is actively trying to poach people.
That will be the modern way - top tier clubs poaching talent from bottom tier clubs.
At some point money will become absolutely make or break too.
Teams like the Western Bulldogs may never win another flag.

We have to wake up and take a broader view than just the head coach.
The whole club needs to work well, every staff member needs to be under as much scrutiny as the head coach.

Sadly we aren't at that point.

great post Bluey.
Even greater avatar.
One of my favorite memories.

camel · **Posted:** Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:15 pm

Great post Bluey. :thumbsup:

london blue · **Joined:** Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:08 pm **Posts:** 3258

camelboy wrote:

Great post Bluey. :thumbsup:

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dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

DocSherrin wrote:

dane wrote:

:lol: within 16 seconds

Only thing is fellas....Barker isn't the forward line coach. Brad Green is.

Is Barker sacked yet?

redback · **Joined:** Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:17 pm **Posts:** 2646

Bluey44 wrote:

hollywood43 wrote:

How anyone can be talking up Malthouse is beyond me.
He has done nothing yet in his two seasons. 9th and 13th in his first two seasons
Hes the best deflector in the AFL.

Regardless of whether you are pro/anti Mick,
people are going to have to start getting used to the fact that premierships are going to get harder and harder to win under the current league format.

The assistance given to the new teams (on top of the obvious fact there are now 2 new competitors), along with free agency, will make flags harder to come by, and will entrench certain 'Organisations' in the top of the ladder for the long term.

It's not just simple footy anymore, it's more like an American or European league where successful corporations win more often than not.

We need to get the WHOLE organisation humming, not just the coach.

In the future there may be coaches who achieve miracles by getting their team to 8th, and then they will get poached to a good club, where the superior organisational environment means the coach's skills are put to best use in order to win a flag.

Things have changed.
If we were an awesome modern club (ala Geelong or Hawthorn) and Mick came along and got us to 8th or 13th, then we would be in our rights to sack him Manchester United style.
The problem is we were (and in some ways still are) a basketcase, at possibly (almost) the worst time in the history of the game to be a basketcase, and we are only improving at a marginal rate.
So in the context of our organisation, we are a bottom 10 organisation.
Until we are a top 8 or top 4 organisation, then there's no way you can isolate Mick as the cause of our underperformance.

So blaming Mick in isolation is useless. Getting Ratts back, or Vossy or Ling or Goodwin or whoever is trendy flavour of the month will not work in isolation.

Certain broken records on here keep talking about Hinkley - Take Koshie out of the equation, along with the bailouts from the AFL/SANFL/whoever else helped them, along with a major organisational reshuffle, then Port would be a rabble. They were very close to heading the same way as Melbourne.
Put Hinkley into a Mark Neeld type situation, and I bet he wouldn't be getting the hype he currently is.
He had a good opportunity at the perfect time which utilised his skills.
He was a good fit for a quickly improving organisation.

We need a President, board and staff that know what they are doing.
The last bunch clearly did not.
The new bunch are only half new - half recycled. Hopefully the tide is turning.

I'm happy that MLG is actively trying to poach people.
That will be the modern way - top tier clubs poaching talent from bottom tier clubs.
At some point money will become absolutely make or break too.
Teams like the Western Bulldogs may never win another flag.

We have to wake up and take a broader view than just the head coach.
The whole club needs to work well, every staff member needs to be under as much scrutiny as the head coach.

Sadly we aren't at that point.

So bluey were we a basket case before Micky took over or were we consistent finalists in the previous few years?
How many times did we miss out on finals after Ratten took over while we had the same basket case of a club?
Weren’t we a bottom 10 or even bottom 5 organisation before Ratten took over but still improved dramatically with our on field results?

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

redback. What a hater.

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