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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:08 pm 
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Yep bottom 6 draw for next year.

Knowing us though we'll get double ups against the lower teams who jump up the ladder next year.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:22 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:
Yep bottom 6 draw for next year.

Knowing us though we'll get double ups against the lower teams who jump up the ladder next year.


True, but you only play 5 teams twice.

You can guarantee that two of them will be Collingwood, Essendon* or Richmond so it wont be a true "bottom 6" draw.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:27 pm 
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I think we have to play a finals team twice only once. So it will be Essendon*.

We won't play Richmond twice - like we didn't this year.

Collingwood we'll play twice as one of the middle 6 teams we have to play twice.

I think we get to play 1-2 bottom 6 teams twice.

We won't have to play 3 finals teams twice like this year. Collingwood, Geelong & Port this year. We had a top 6 draw this year.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:28 pm 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Yep bottom 6 draw for next year.

Knowing us though we'll get double ups against the lower teams who jump up the ladder next year.


True, but you only play 5 teams twice.

You can guarantee that two of them will be Collingwood, Essendon** or Richmond so it wont be a true "bottom 6" draw.


What do you mean? Collingwood will be the new GWS and the Bombers infracted


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:37 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Sucks that Gibbs thought there was 3 minutes left when he had the shot.


That alone tells me that the off field strategies need to sharpen up, and stop blaming the players.

It is not just the Gibbs shot but lots of incidents in close ones this year and last year and the year before that.

As soon as Gibbs got the ball, it should have been reflex from the bench to have the runner out there...or pass on the message by strong voice relay across the ground. That would have taken all of 10 seconds whilst Gibbs was walking back.

Then there's the opportunity of taking the ball over the line for the lead by either Watson punch or Wood 'try'. The boys didnt have an idea of the time left but the off field staff did. Were they asleep.

Little areas of improvement ie 1%ers could have given us another 4-5 wins this year.

We should bounce back up the ladder next year whether Waite Robbo or Garlett are with us or not.

I was proud of the boys in the end...a tad disappointed but not filthy.


yep, Bondi, good thoughts.
I reckon we'll be playing finals next year.
I have Tiger envy.
I wish we were travelling to Adelaide for finals. :sad:
I wanted us to win sooo badly just to make those cheats travel.
Didn't entertain it until the last quarter of course, and then to miss it by a bees dick was horrible.
roll on Blues 2015!
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agree to a certain extent

however this club has been teasing us for years

although we showed something over the last 8 weeks (apart from last week) we are still a bottom 4-6 team

my expectations aren't great for next year as I have seen it all before

our losing mentality has cost us many close games over the last 10 years

I am sick of it


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:40 pm 
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Fair points about the fixture, although we should have beaten Fremantle, Geelong twice and Essendon* and lost to GWS, Melbourne and Brisbane so not sure it will make a lot of difference. :razz:

I dont worry too much about the draw. It's not to be enough to elevate you from bottom 6 to a flag, so really it does nothing but paper over cracks as it did for Adelaide in 2012 and possibly Nth Melbourne this year. Might be the difference in finish at the top of the middle bunch, rather than at the bottom.

This year the teams that finished the highest in 2013 have done the same again in 2014 regardless of who they've played.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:50 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:
Yep bottom 6 draw for next year.

Knowing us though we'll get double ups against the lower teams who jump up the ladder next year.

That is how it is supposed to work however there are blockbuster games that have to be played twice. Depends on where Essendon* and Richmond finish. Both may get knocked out first week of the finals so wont finish in the top 6. Teams we always play twice are Collingwood and Essendon* so it only leaves 3 other teams that we have to play twice. Dont hold your breath on us getting a favourable draw next year because that is not how it works.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:50 pm 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Yep bottom 6 draw for next year.

Knowing us though we'll get double ups against the lower teams who jump up the ladder next year.


True, but you only play 5 teams twice.

You can guarantee that two of them will be Collingwood, Essendon** or Richmond so it wont be a true "bottom 6" draw.

Wish we could play ourselves a few times.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:52 pm 
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kezza wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Yep bottom 6 draw for next year.

Knowing us though we'll get double ups against the lower teams who jump up the ladder next year.

That is how it is supposed to work however there are blockbuster games that have to be played twice. Depends on where Essendon** and Richmond finish. Both may get knocked out first week of the finals so wont finish in the top 6. Teams we always play twice are Collingwood and Essendon** so it only leaves 3 other teams that we have to play twice. Dont hold your breath on us getting a favourable draw next year because that is not how it works.



With the new rules it does. It's why we didn't play Richmond twice this year. Because we could only play a certain number of finalists twice.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:00 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:
kezza wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Yep bottom 6 draw for next year.

Knowing us though we'll get double ups against the lower teams who jump up the ladder next year.

That is how it is supposed to work however there are blockbuster games that have to be played twice. Depends on where Essendon*** and Richmond finish. Both may get knocked out first week of the finals so wont finish in the top 6. Teams we always play twice are Collingwood and Essendon*** so it only leaves 3 other teams that we have to play twice. Dont hold your breath on us getting a favourable draw next year because that is not how it works.



With the new rules it does. It's why we didn't play Richmond twice this year. Because we could only play a certain number of finalists twice.

It does work that way to a certain extent, there are exceptions in regards to blockbuster games. If we finished bottom 6 in a year that Essendon* and Collingwood finished top 6 there is all likelyhood that we would still play both of those teams twice the next year.
I cant remember how the formula is worked out but does it mean that we are not meant to play any top 6 teams twice next year?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 3:04 pm 
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– Sides ranked in the bottom third (13-18) will have either no or a maximum of one double-meeting with a side ranked 1-6. They will have at least one but no more than two double-meetings with sides ranked 7-12. They will have a minimum of two and a maximum of three double-meetings with sides ranked in the same lower third bracket (13-18).

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a ... z3BwX1n0rC


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:04 pm 
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WOW wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Sucks that Gibbs thought there was 3 minutes left when he had the shot.


That alone tells me that the off field strategies need to sharpen up, and stop blaming the players.

It is not just the Gibbs shot but lots of incidents in close ones this year and last year and the year before that.

As soon as Gibbs got the ball, it should have been reflex from the bench to have the runner out there...or pass on the message by strong voice relay across the ground. That would have taken all of 10 seconds whilst Gibbs was walking back.

Then there's the opportunity of taking the ball over the line for the lead by either Watson punch or Wood 'try'. The boys didnt have an idea of the time left but the off field staff did. Were they asleep.

Little areas of improvement ie 1%ers could have given us another 4-5 wins this year.

We should bounce back up the ladder next year whether Waite Robbo or Garlett are with us or not.

I was proud of the boys in the end...a tad disappointed but not filthy.


yep, Bondi, good thoughts.
I reckon we'll be playing finals next year.
I have Tiger envy.
I wish we were travelling to Adelaide for finals. :sad:
I wanted us to win sooo badly just to make those cheats travel.
Didn't entertain it until the last quarter of course, and then to miss it by a bees dick was horrible.
roll on Blues 2015!
:thumbsup:


agree to a certain extent

however this club has been teasing us for years

although we showed something over the last 8 weeks (apart from last week) we are still a bottom 4-6 team

my expectations aren't great for next year as I have seen it all before

our losing mentality has cost us many close games over the last 10 years

I am sick of it


The malthouse factor. That is enough for me to think " this time its different".
I really do think that it has been onfield leadership that has been missing. But the latter half of this season has shown a huge improvement in this area. In a perverse way, Judd being injured, forced our emerging leaders to grow up a bit quicker ie murphy gibbs. When Judd came back, and thomas started to gain fitness and confidence, we had a nice core of leaders


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:37 pm 
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Cretylus wrote:
Jake Carlisle to the Blues.

Watson, Waite, Lucas

Very touching to see the Essendon** players allow Mathew Watson play well yesterday - Essendon** Grammar boy and familiar with the Fletcher family.

jake pull a hammy apparently during the wee -couldnt play.

Amzing how Gibbs took nearly 20 seconds to kick that ball from 50m - enough time for evey Essendon** player to get back into the goal square.

And yet Gibbs's kick fell short and the only player that went up for the mark was Watson, who dropped it - Watson couldnt spoil the pre planned draw could he. And Watson couldnt inflict a loss on Essendon** - HIS next employer.


I was too busy looking for a guy in the crowd holding an umbrella. How that ball didn't go through the posts defied every law of physics

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:43 pm 
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Mil Hanna wrote:
CK95 wrote:
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Score worm was almost a perfect sine wave.

Yet there is little if no discussion about this?

Tells you a lot about Carlton supporters these days.




I was too busy working on my tan



What's this all about? Hang on a Secant....


Stop this hyperbole for god's sakes. You're all acting like my Vietnamese mate's baby Tanh, who carries on like this all day in the cot. Stop. Period.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:23 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Sucks that Gibbs thought there was 3 minutes left when he had the shot.


That alone tells me that the off field strategies need to sharpen up, and stop blaming the players.

It is not just the Gibbs shot but lots of incidents in close ones this year and last year and the year before that.

As soon as Gibbs got the ball, it should have been reflex from the bench to have the runner out there...or pass on the message by strong voice relay across the ground. That would have taken all of 10 seconds whilst Gibbs was walking back.

Then there's the opportunity of taking the ball over the line for the lead by either Watson punch or Wood 'try'. The boys didnt have an idea of the time left but the off field staff did. Were they asleep.

Little areas of improvement ie 1%ers could have given us another 4-5 wins this year.

We should bounce back up the ladder next year whether Waite Robbo or Garlett are with us or not.

I was proud of the boys in the end...a tad disappointed but not filthy.


just beggars belief that there wasn't a runner out there all the time from when the clock ticked down to 2 minutes to go. the good clubs would have.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:25 pm 
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Blue Beatle wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Sucks that Gibbs thought there was 3 minutes left when he had the shot.


That alone tells me that the off field strategies need to sharpen up, and stop blaming the players.

It is not just the Gibbs shot but lots of incidents in close ones this year and last year and the year before that.

As soon as Gibbs got the ball, it should have been reflex from the bench to have the runner out there...or pass on the message by strong voice relay across the ground. That would have taken all of 10 seconds whilst Gibbs was walking back.

Then there's the opportunity of taking the ball over the line for the lead by either Watson punch or Wood 'try'. The boys didnt have an idea of the time left but the off field staff did. Were they asleep.

Little areas of improvement ie 1%ers could have given us another 4-5 wins this year.

We should bounce back up the ladder next year whether Waite Robbo or Garlett are with us or not.

I was proud of the boys in the end...a tad disappointed but not filthy.


just beggars belief that there wasn't a runner out there all the time from when the clock ticked down to 2 minutes to go. the good clubs would have.

can only afford part time runners after Mick gets paid


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:26 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:
Sucks that Gibbs thought there was 3 minutes left when he had the shot.


But isn't that typical of the communication - thought mick and wiley should have been a bit more wily than that.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:28 pm 
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New rules don't allow runner inside 50 if the ball is there.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:38 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:
New rules don't allow runner inside 50 if the ball is there.


Please em20 don't let facts get in the way of a good winge


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:47 pm 
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New rules don't allow runner inside 50 if the ball is there.


the runner relays the message to a player outside the 50m who then runs in and informs his team mates

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