padre wrote:
Goltzenberg wrote:
I wouldnt say the club has turned the corner. A lot of improvement from the pies game though.
Still losing. If your happy with losing, then all good. Shown improvement but well off being acceptable. Mm has had nothing to do with gibbs, except giving gibbs the opportunity to be a full time mid role. The kid was kicking 6 goals and getting 30 possessions in the sanfl as a 16yo. Any credit should probably be given to the midfield coach.
And Hopefully mm doesnt want to recruit anymore players with injuries. Higgins next? To date, he avgs 40% of games per season. Lets give him 5 years and 450k. After hearing doc larkins today, thomas ankle is re injured and l doubt you see him next season. His ligaments were stretched from memory and was never going to repair without surgery. Thanks mick
Of course i am not happy losing! But i prefer us to be competitive in nearly all our games, compared to last year where we were nowhere near the top 8 sides. That is evidence enough that we have improved in my mind. It tells me that we can beat almost anyone with some improved confidence and some more depth to our list to cover injuries better..
A cheap shot imo about thomas.
Your comment about Gibbs reveals a real bias against mick. Gibbs had to be developed as an A grade midfielder in the AFL. Ratten couldnt do it, and it took time under mick, but he has finally arrived.
I am a massive fan of gibbs since he come to the club. In one of his first few games he had 17/17 efficient kicks. Pagan decided that the best way to play a kid is to put him in back pocket for a couple years to learn the game. Then with Ratts, he was played as a HBF due to his efficient kicking and decision making, as they struggled to get the ball out of the backline. Didn't Bucks play a lot on the HB line due to that ability. Then he shut down goodes and a couple other players and he was used as a tagger sometimes.
Even under micks first year, l don't think he played much in the midfield. This season, Everitt has taken on the tagging role, docherty has cemented the HBF role, which has pushed gibbs to the midfield. Also, with brock on the outer, injuries to judd and curnow, he was forced to play in the midfield. He has grabbed that opportunity and is now starting to show his abillity.
If you want to give MM credit for all that, then that is fine. Gibbs has played for 7 years and this is the first year he has had opportunity to play full time in the gig. When your 25 odd midfielder, l don't think you really improve any ball skills, but you gain experience, which grows your footy brain. Majority of that experience comes from the player playing footy with some advice from coaching panel. But, those 0.5 decisions made out there, come from players instincts and experience, you can't coach that. It is interesting in a contract season, he started playing the role he always wanted to play though
Mick is doing a decent job, if finishing 13th is our new objective. I have accepted the losing culture like most on here and l have accepted we won't play finals under MM. Mick is the man to get us good draft picks and we will never be accused of tanking under mick. We really haven't been smashed, but been competitive in losing. I don't read too much in to the loss to Freo, they were smashed by Saints the week before and Geelong didn't have Bartell or Stevie J.
As for Daisy Thomas, this could be one of the worst decisions in AFL history. By MM pushing for his son, they have really handicapped the team salary cap wise. This guy probably isn't in our best 10 players currently and if his ankle is bad as previously injured, then CFC just blew 2.5 million. The guy hasn't even got back to his premium value and you might never see that now. Levi Casabolt rejected Carltons first offer, but if Carlton have barely any cap room left due to Thomas, then he will walk.
Daisy in, Betts, Laider, Levi out could be a reality. We can't lose Levi. Waite's been in MM dog house all year too, so l expect him to go as well for a 2 year deal.
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