Ever met the guy BV?

and give it to Josh Bootsma

You have quoted one person saying he thinks that Mick is a good mentor.

That hardly represents an ingrained worship of Mick.



Most people on here are keeping an open mind and trying to make a judgement based on what Mick does (or doesn't) achieve at THIS club.

I get the impression that you made your mind up a long time ago without waiting to see what happens.
Fair enough.
We get it.

I think that most people are willing to allow a coach more than 1.5 seasons to prove himself. (Whether there was a process or not)
That might take some getting used to on your part.
Sounds like Mick really gets under your skin

http://www.fiveaa.com.au/audio_mick-malthouse_108777

Don't know if this has been posted, but a good listen for the neutrals.

Don't play the man like the other nuffys.
If you disagree with my post, give reasons why.
It's interesting that several posters can't counter my view so they try to ridicule instead. That's why their views aren't valued here.
If anything I've said is wrong, tell me what it is.

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Sounds like Game of Thrones.

"a very average human being" how do you quatify this? How can l or anyone else "counter" this position.

Harsh call BV. You really hate this guy. The venom is deadly.

MM may or May not be the right man for the job.

Blame the execs who put the $1m a year contract on the table. Who wouldn't be tempted to take up the offer?

He's definitely not average....self serving and belligerent perhaps, but not average.

I don't know what personal qualities you expect from a leader of men BV, but I'll think you'll find the qualities that you admire are probably sitting at home with a wife, 2 kids and an average wage.

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Like who? Alan Didak? Heath Shaw?
Quality players but also well known for lying to extricate themselves from situations they created with poor behaviour.
They had a great mentor for that as well didn't they?

I have no doubt many players like playing footy under Mick and many of them enjoy his company. But you don't just hire a football coach. You hire a person to represent your club with all their good traits and their poor ones.
So if you're willing to overlook Micks past and recent history of losing control and then lying to extricate himself or pretend it didn't happen, that's fine. I'm not.
Let him keep coaching, I don't give a rats arse but spare me the great mentor/great man bullshit. Mick is a very average human being and his past couple of weeks have only reinforced that.
His employment is symptomatic of what our club has become. Our recent history (30 years) clearly demonstrates that when it comes to achieving success, lying, cheating, any type of behaviour is acceptable. We're willing to overlook or brush under the carpet any type of behaviour if it takes us one centimetre closer to a cup.

All this thread has shown is it's become ingrained into the supporters as well. Great mentor my arse.[/quote]
"Mick is a very average human being" imo he is an above average human being, perhaps you were looking in the mirror. Are you very average or just average? I think he should get some respect. He is clearly turning our list around. It is happening right now under our noses and you cant see it? Too obsessed with name calling and trying to pay out on someone, anyone for what has been an undeniably disappointing season. As we slowly turn the corner and grind our way back towards being top 8 material, there will be a lot of red faces. Long after the personal assaults on his character have been smudged by time , there will be the usual pathetic reappraisal and hollow apologies.

Perhaps I am an average human being Padre but I tell you one thing. When I @#$%&! up, I take responsibility for it. When I @#$%&! up I don't deny it and lie my way out of it.
So yeah, I'm happy to look in the mirror because I know I'm a long way from perfect but at least I have some morals that are important to me.

The difference between you and me is you think Mick should get respect because "he's clearly turning our list around"
You don't give a @#$%&! about what values Malthouse has, what's important is how he teaches players to chase a piece of @#$%&! leather around. You'll excuse it all if your team wins. John Elliot style.

Me? I don't give a @#$%&! if he coaches us to a flag. Our club has been compromising itself for 30 years now. We've cheated, lied and trampled in the feint hope of success. Mick just meets the criteria we've set as a standard.

You and your mates, you're happy to overlook it all in the hope he can turn our football team around. I'm not. Carlton's not that important to me. Hasn't been for quite a while.

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It is not as bad as you are lead to believe.......it is %$#^& worse!!!

BV what do you base this on? Answering the media's stupid questions with disdain?? I say good on him. I love seeing him give it to the media particularly when he gets asked the drivel he does each week... Blokes like you and Effes miss the big picture because you focus on trivial bullshit like this....

Look at the development this year of Rowe, Yarran, Buckley, Menzel, Cripps, Docherty etc... Of course we are in a bit of a pickle atm and we'll need to contiinue to work hard to move up the ladder but there are signs there...

Would like to see Mick bring out some home made muffins for the media on a more regular basis before he's deemed to be nice enough for you???

MM is a process coach, IMO anyway he is for the most part showing a good balance between development and trying to win games for morale. The youngsters (the young talent we do have) are getting and will get a go in due course. Malthouse is a passionate coach, the players love him and is respected by many. Has he made a few mistakes?? Yes, and he even took the blame on the chin last week when he admitted to his weaknesses... Of course that's not enough for the high and mighty like yourself...!

I'd rather have a coach that pushes the boundaries a little and has a bit of C$%^ in him than someone who gets trampled all over like a snail...

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BTW BV I don't think you are an average human, just overly dramatic

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Corinthians 9:6- 8

This is what an average bloke does in his spare time;

http://www.bridgeproject.ymca.org.au/ne ... lunch.html
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2013-0 ... -tradition

I wonder how they let these young people near the bloke?

He probably thinks you're a nuffy.

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dane's trolling again

The media show you snippets on what occurred making it look worse than it really is. Last night Footy Classified showed MM launching into one of the scumbag stirrers. If you see the whole footage, the reporter was trying to bait him after questions had finished. They want MM to fire up so they have something to write about. MM's reply was perfect.

The media are treating MM like Martin Bryant or Rolf Harris.

People easily get sucked in by what the media say and write. I don't want Robertson of the Herald Sun telling Carlton we should sack Mick. Robbo can GAGF!!!

MM is an easy target now:
- he doesn't have the support and protection of the Eddie media machine
- he is from Collingwood so a lot of Collingwood loyal media types are keen to get into him at any chance
- he is at Carlton who everyone hates
- he is losing games (easy target for Carlton supporters)
- the Essendon* loyal media types see MM as a deflection on the biggest issue in footy - drug cheating

Amazing how some here get sucked in.

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It is not as bad as you are lead to believe.......it is %$#^& worse!!!

Last week MM should have said when he was walking out of the PC, re having any regrets, have I orchestrated the injection of 34 athletes with 200 PEDs instead of the have I murdered anyone?

It's got nothing to do with the media, or their stupid questions. It's about his character.

When he hopped into Stephen Milne, what came of that? Instead of him saying he did it and he shouldn't have. He openly stated 'let's get one thing straight, I didn't speak to Milne". Even when the footage proved it he still tried to bullshit his way out of it until the club told him to pull his head in.

Yes Stephen Milne is a dog, yes he deserves the scorn he receives but that doesn't change the fact Malthouse lied and refused to take responsibility for his actions.

Fast forward to the recent match where he blasted Ling at half time. Same thing. Malthouse denies he was talking to Ling and refuses to take responsibility for his actions. Even when the footage clearly shows he was talking to Ling, he refuses to take responsibility for his behaviour.
Yet people are telling me he's a good role model. Where do you think Didak and Heath Shaw learnt to lie their way out of trouble? From their great role model.

Now some of you like Clayman choose to totally overlook that and blame the media for everything. Others think it's all about the football and if he brings success, character isn't important.
Others like Dane are here to shit stir and have offered nothing to the site since day one.

I don't believe he's good for the club. Yes he may be a good coach but coaching experience and knowledge is only part of the puzzle IMO. Others disagree. So be it.

As for this nonsense about me hating the bloke and running an agenda about him. Go back and look at my posts over the past 18 months. I've given Malthouse a fair run until his stupidity of the past couple of weeks.
But when people come on here portraying him as a victim of the media and a great mentor and role model to the players, please. Let's not be totally moronic about it.

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You've also got your holier than thou posters who believe their opinion is golden on every matter.

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