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emtwenty · **Joined:** Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:29 pm **Posts:** 7074

bluegirl72 wrote:

emtwenty wrote:

bluegirl72 wrote:

OR,
Laidler said the complete opposite.
The work at The Bridge sounds fantastic. hats off to him for that.
This is a seperate issue.
Is he a positive influence on our players?
Maybe on some but not all?
How can someone who lies and evades, and is so lacking in empathy be a great role model?
He is universally disliked in the footy community as opposed to Roos, who I believe is someone that clearly has a positive influence on his players, and whatever club he works for.
it's demonstrated.
I don't see or hear that from MM's past.
In fact, I've heard quite a bit to support the opposite.
and I worked or a long time in a place where I saw many Collingwood players,
and in a situation where it was easy to ask, and get an honest opinion back.
You do get a feel for these things..but
I don't doubt you have heard or seen the opposite.
I hope we get to see it next year.

Lost me at Laidler. He's a disgruntled bitter ex-employee who was moved on due to a poor attitude. He confirmed this in his pathetic whiny interview on Saturday night and his dig @ Carlton on social media following the game.

I liked laidler.
He was before the knee cap. an important part of our backline with Jammo.
I thought he was refreshingly honest in his comments on our club.
I can't understand why he wasn't played in the senior team, and encouraged to get back to his best.
It's easy to dismiss him as rubbish. but..he actually wasn't rubbish, and Swannies see something in him..even if he is a fill in, he's holding up his end. As if they couldn't have chosen at least a dozen others for that role! He's there because he is pretty good.
Too many stories of personality clashes from coaches and players..
There is something in it.
Anyway..
I'm having a belligerent day
gonna go back to being my usual dainty agreeable self.
:razz:

I never said Laidler lacked talent. Laidler's issue was his attitude. As is the case with other players ( who don't lack talent) who will most likely be moved on this year too.

AGRO · **Posted:** Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:46 pm

Ockham's Razor wrote:

Hey BG

I'm not a supporter of MM nor am I against him.

However, I think the balance has been tipped too far against him by the media in an effort to cover over other footy issues.

And btw, the MLG chat with him has obviously had an impact given MM statement today.

Keogh,

maybe MLG has shown the "balls" you asked him for???

Cheers
OR

Yep, I think the AFL Media have been disgraceful and negligent in ignoring Mark Thompson's contribution to medical science.

Ignoring Mark Thompson's pronouncements on his cure for cancer is a national scandal.

bluegirl72 · **Joined:** Sat May 23, 2009 8:30 pm **Posts:** 23924

camelboy wrote:

Are not!

BigKev · **Posted:** Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:56 pm

Did anyone seriously think we were recruiting a media PR guy when we appointed MM as coach?
Really?

He was recruited to win us a flag because our list was "almost there" and Ratten couldn't take them the extra step. Now it appears that the list was not quite that good after all and we now need a coach to rebuild it. MM's record at doing this is pretty good. Give him some time.

IMO it would be silly to do anything about extending or terminating his contract until mid 2015. I can't see him being poached by anyone ... and who else are we going to get anyway?

emtwenty · **Joined:** Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:29 pm **Posts:** 7074

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/spo ... 6992042686

If you need a laugh this arvo.

camel · **Posted:** Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:20 pm

emtwenty wrote:

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/sport/afl/footy-doesnt-need-mick-malthouse-any-more/story-fnjuhrq4-1226992042686

If you need a laugh this arvo.

I'll be amazed if that doesn't win a Walkley!

Effes · **Posted:** Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:25 pm

BigKev wrote:

Now it appears that the list was not quite that good after all and we now need a coach to rebuild it. MM's record at doing this is pretty good. Give him some time.

He's already hindered the rebuild with his Thomas recruitment - did we decide after last season or during this season that the list was stuffed?

BigKev wrote:

...and who else are we going to get anyway?

Leigh Tudor, Gavin Brown, Mark Stone, David Noble, John Blakey are some candidates (to begin with) - most of them have been assistants for a long time and have been at different clubs.

Go on Carlton, think carefully for once about coaching appointments.

Jake Niall made some interesting comments last year

Quote:

These powerful, heavily supported clubs seem to find the notion of finding an obscure assistant and making him coach unpalatable. Thus, they constantly find themselves hiring one of their own, failing or falling out and then going back to a proven coach from outside their gene pool. Ratten, it must be said, was not terribly favoured for a son; the club and its impatient fans marked him hard. Buckley and Hird had the advantage of strong clubs and support staff that Primus and Voss did not enjoy when they were appointed. Voss did not have Mark Thompson or Rodney Eade at his side. Poor list management calls, as distinct from coaching nous, will probably prove the coach-killer in his case.

It's understandable that clubs install their inspirational icons, who are mostly ex-captains. They are a statement of identity in a professionalised game that no longer has real home grounds (besides Geelong, the SCG and Gabba) and is predominantly populated with AFL careerists - CEOs, coaches and recruiters - who owe no allegiance to any particular tribe. The favourite son preserves the clubs' sense that it stands for something.

Some fortunate sons will succeed, just as surely as career coaches - which remain a clear majority of them - fail. But in this age, the scoreboard heavily favours those who weren't favoured.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/t ... z37hjV5DwR

The Rhino · **Joined:** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:20 pm **Posts:** 6923

Phwoaaaaaar. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Wojee · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:17 am **Posts:** 35135

David Schwarz defending one of Geelong's favourite sons in their local rag.

Incisive.

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:57 pm

I think Swatta was spot on

Goltzenberg · **Posted:** Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:08 pm

If l was malthouse l would quit after this year.
He wont have a winning record, already 15 /26 win loss record. Correct me if l am wrong on that stat.

The longer he coaches the further carlton are away from a premiership, unless he coaches for 8 years.

Only incentives for him is the record next year and another million. Not bad incentives. If the team has a shizen season again like this year he will be sacked. He should take the advice he gave to judd and get out now, then be paganed.

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

Sydney Blue wrote:

I think Swatta was spot on

No shit!

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

mick should... [youtube]x0uWxB0JkFo[/youtube]

Dominator_7 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:18 pm

BigBlueWave wrote:

emtwenty wrote:

bluegirl72 wrote:

OR,
Laidler said the complete opposite.
The work at The Bridge sounds fantastic. hats off to him for that.
This is a seperate issue.
Is he a positive influence on our players?
Maybe on some but not all?
How can someone who lies and evades, and is so lacking in empathy be a great role model?
He is universally disliked in the footy community as opposed to Roos, who I believe is someone that clearly has a positive influence on his players, and whatever club he works for.
it's demonstrated.
I don't see or hear that from MM's past.
In fact, I've heard quite a bit to support the opposite.
and I worked or a long time in a place where I saw many Collingwood players,
and in a situation where it was easy to ask, and get an honest opinion back.
You do get a feel for these things..but
I don't doubt you have heard or seen the opposite.
I hope we get to see it next year.

Lost me at Laidler. He's a disgruntled bitter ex-employee who was moved on due to a poor attitude. He confirmed this in his pathetic whiny interview on Saturday night and his dig @ Carlton on social media following the game.

Wrong .... Laidler wasn't moved on for a poor attitude! ... He was moved on because Mick deemed that Laidler could not play in multiple positions ...

Another magic moment from the Super Duper coach.

You reckon Laidler would be even getting a game if Alex Johnson hadn't done his knee in rnd 1....

ryan2000 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:22 pm

emtwenty wrote:

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/sport/afl/footy-doesnt-need-mick-malthouse-any-more/story-fnjuhrq4-1226992042686

If you need a laugh this arvo.

i 100% aggreee with this article.

The truth hurts.

We WERE Wrong in appointing him.
Our Image IS suffering because of him.
The players DID look to be disorientated after the halftime break. We played so well in the first half and then shite in the second.
We DO need to be strong and sack him.

Look. I was against appointing him in the first place (especially paying over-the-odds for him when nobody else was chasing him) but said that we should let him see out his 3 years to give him the chance. But to be honest, i think he's sent us backwards......... fast.

Not saying that Ratts was the right man for the job cause he had his faults too............... but Mick was the wrong choice from the start and he's proving that to be correct right now.

Wojee · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:17 am **Posts:** 35135

If the players can be put off their game by the coach telling a Ch 7 boundary rider to @#$%&! off then we need new players.

Taff · **Posted:** Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:40 pm

emtwenty wrote:

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/sport/afl/footy-doesnt-need-mick-malthouse-any-more/story-fnjuhrq4-1226992042686

If you need a laugh this arvo.

Some salient points there. Wonder who helped him write it.

moshe25 · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2005 1:23 am **Posts:** 11671

DocSherrin wrote:

Laidler was shite. Build a bridge...

Ah, at last some clarity and sense in this bizarro thread. Well done Doc. It appears filling ones head with pits and pots of good American craft beer and mountains of legal medicinal Mariana really does clear the brain. Some posters would do well to follow suit.

:roll:

:roll::roll:

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

ryan2000 wrote:

emtwenty wrote:

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/sport/afl/footy-doesnt-need-mick-malthouse-any-more/story-fnjuhrq4-1226992042686

If you need a laugh this arvo.

i 100% aggreee with this article.

The truth hurts.

We WERE Wrong in appointing him.
Our Image IS suffering because of him.
The players DID look to be disorientated after the halftime break. We played so well in the first half and then shite in the second.
We DO need to be strong and sack him.

Look. I was against appointing him in the first place (especially paying over-the-odds for him when nobody else was chasing him) but said that we should let him see out his 3 years to give him the chance. But to be honest, i think he's sent us backwards......... fast.

Not saying that Ratts was the right man for the job cause he had his faults too............... but Mick was the wrong choice from the start and he's proving that to be correct right now.

This post is MADE by the Random capitailisation.

ryan2000 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 17, 2014 7:54 pm

dane wrote:

ryan2000 wrote:

emtwenty wrote:

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/sport/afl/footy-doesnt-need-mick-malthouse-any-more/story-fnjuhrq4-1226992042686

If you need a laugh this arvo.

i 100% aggreee with this article.

The truth hurts.

We WERE Wrong in appointing him.
Our Image IS suffering because of him.
The players DID look to be disorientated after the halftime break. We played so well in the first half and then shite in the second.
We DO need to be strong and sack him.

Look. I was against appointing him in the first place (especially paying over-the-odds for him when nobody else was chasing him) but said that we should let him see out his 3 years to give him the chance. But to be honest, i think he's sent us backwards......... fast.

Not saying that Ratts was the right man for the job cause he had his faults too............... but Mick was the wrong choice from the start and he's proving that to be correct right now.

This post is MADE by the Random capitailisation.

No.............. it'd made by the fact that the article is spot-on and we're too suborn to admit it!

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