Malthouse contract discussion: EXTENSION DENIED!

Braithy · **Joined:** Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:42 pm **Posts:** 7268

I'm pretty sure our problems run a lot deeper than a broken down laidler and another year or two of eddie contributing then mailing in the last years of his contract.

The list of improvers this season under MM is astonishing. It's something we rarely witnessed under ratten, and I was a pro-ratts guy too.

Rowe, Casboult, Yarran, Gibbs, Murphy, at times warnock, etc etc the inclusion of everitt and docherty. The plusses for MM far outweigh the negatives from a list improvement perspective. imo

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

You're shit Braithy.
MM IS TRYING TO RUIN US.

moshe25 · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2005 1:23 am **Posts:** 11671

woof wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

I'm not comparing Richo with MM but I suspect he's doing exactly what he should be at the Saints.

He is doing exactly what Chris Pelchan wants him to do.

What? You mean they actually have someone there who's the boss? Who carries out the board's vision in the football department? Who keeps the coaching staff accountable? Ridiculous! Next thing you'll tell me that Geelong, Hawthorn, and Sydney do that too. That's 19th Century style management. They should all do it OUR way, because....

We're Carlton... and we've flowered the best!!

london blue · **Joined:** Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:08 pm **Posts:** 3258

Braithy wrote:

I'm pretty sure our problems run a lot deeper than a broken down laidler and another year or two of eddie contributing then mailing in the last years of his contract.

The list of improvers this season under MM is astonishing. It's something we rarely witnessed under ratten, and I was a pro-ratts guy too.

Rowe, Casboult, Yarran, Gibbs, Murphy, at times warnock, etc etc the inclusion of everitt and docherty. The plusses for MM far outweigh the negatives from a list improvement perspective. imo

gerry atric · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:35 am **Posts:** 2125

Braithy wrote:

The list of improvers this season under MM is astonishing. It's something we rarely witnessed under ratten, and I was a pro-ratts guy too.

Rowe, Casboult, Yarran, Gibbs, Murphy, at times warnock, etc etc the inclusion of everitt and docherty. The plusses for MM far outweigh the negatives from a list improvement perspective. imo

Hardly "astonishing" Braithy. Young players improve. Yes Levi has improved but it has been steady over a number of years, and with the tools he has you would expect him to improve. Rowe has done really well in defence. Murphy is at about the level he was a few years back. Gibbs was average early in the year but has been excellent recently and should win the b and f Yarran was at a very high level several years back and you would expect a player that talented to improve as he gets older. I wasn't a Ratts fan but I thought Yarran played very well at half back for Ratten. I'd add Curnow to the improvers. Warnock has shown why you don't give up a second rounder in a very strong draft to add a 4th ruckman to your list who can't do anything but tap the ball to congestion. He has taken 3 contested marks for the year. He hasn't improved. Balanced against improvements are players going backwards. Armfield, Waite, Garlett, all in career worst form. Walker has been up and down, Simmo is currently struggling. We are near the bottom of the ladder, having our worst year since about 2007 when we really did have a crap side, so it's hard to argue that we have made great strides forward.

bluechucky · **Joined:** Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:29 am **Posts:** 13689

Hardly astonishing that older players are dropping off too.

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:28 am

Braithy wrote:

I'm pretty sure our problems run a lot deeper than a broken down laidler and another year or two of eddie contributing then mailing in the last years of his contract.

The list of improvers this season under MM is astonishing. It's something we rarely witnessed under ratten, and I was a pro-ratts guy too.

Rowe, Casboult, Yarran, Gibbs, Murphy, at times warnock, etc etc the inclusion of everitt and docherty. The plusses for MM far outweigh the negatives from a list improvement perspective. imo

The list of those gone backwards is far greater

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

Like who?

bluechucky · **Joined:** Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:29 am **Posts:** 13689

All the rest Dane. Get with the program.

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:42 am

Waite Walker Gartlett Simpson Lucas Watson .Armfield Touhy Hendo Cachia Temay

camel · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:42 am

Kouta has done nothing under Mick! Even Pagan got more out of him!!!

Braithy · **Joined:** Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:42 pm **Posts:** 7268

Sydney Blue wrote:

Waite Walker Gartlett Simpson Lucas Watson .Armfield Touhy Hendo Cachia Temay

Touhy & Henderson - playing injured
gartlett - personal problems
Waite, Walker, Simspon - aging, expected to deteriorate

LOL_Watson
Lucas - peahearted, needs the wizard of oz, not an afl coach

camel · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:54 am

There is no @#$%&! T in Garlett, FFS!

:lol:

bluechucky · **Joined:** Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:29 am **Posts:** 13689

Maybe that's why he's crap CB.

BigBlueWave · **Joined:** Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:45 pm **Posts:** 3073

Laidler and Eddie are just examples of the incompetence of the coaching staff. There is a much bigger and broader picture of this mess we find ourselves in ... but its easier for some people on here to get bite size chunks that are irrefutable.

Eddie was not always going to Adelaide (regardless of his father) ... all we needed to do was match the price ... thats the rule ... it would have been easy.

Laidler on the other hand was never given a chance by the Super Duper Coach ... a laughable situation.

woof · **Joined:** Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:51 am **Posts:** 4919

BigBlueWave wrote:

Laidler on the other hand was never given a chance by the Super Duper Coach ... a laughable situation.

He was given a chance, just not a second chance.

Braithy · **Joined:** Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:42 pm **Posts:** 7268

lets face it, after his 3rd patella dislocation, Laidlaw moved like he was 8 months pregnant.

he was no loss to our backline structure, and while moving like that, he was another slow plodding liability.

Dominator_7 · **Posted:** Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:34 pm

BigBlueWave wrote:

I see Betts is starring for Adelaide (we could have easily kept him my matching Adelaide's price) ... but of course Dr Strangelove wanted Thomas.

... and then of course there is Laidler. Has played most of the year in the best team in the comp ... couldn't get a game under Tricky Micky.

All of that hard work after years at the bottom ... getting us back into the finals ... now to end up back where we started.

The main thing though ... is that we have the Super Duper Coach ... thats all that matters.

Joke of a post.

Trigger · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:06 am **Posts:** 1826

Dominator_7 wrote:

BigBlueWave wrote:

I see Betts is starring for Adelaide (we could have easily kept him my matching Adelaide's price) ... but of course Dr Strangelove wanted Thomas.

... and then of course there is Laidler. Has played most of the year in the best team in the comp ... couldn't get a game under Tricky Micky.

All of that hard work after years at the bottom ... getting us back into the finals ... now to end up back where we started.

The main thing though ... is that we have the Super Duper Coach ... thats all that matters.

Joke of a post.

Standard.

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

Trigger wrote:

Dominator_7 wrote:

BigBlueWave wrote:

I see Betts is starring for Adelaide (we could have easily kept him my matching Adelaide's price) ... but of course Dr Strangelove wanted Thomas.

... and then of course there is Laidler. Has played most of the year in the best team in the comp ... couldn't get a game under Tricky Micky.

All of that hard work after years at the bottom ... getting us back into the finals ... now to end up back where we started.

The main thing though ... is that we have the Super Duper Coach ... thats all that matters.

Joke of a post.

Standard.

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