How is he worth a million a year?????
He isnt.. never was.. and will be one of the biggest reasons why were going to be shit for along time...
Doctors who save lives arent getting a million a year..

Maybe we have been fixated by these guys for too long and cant see what this cliub needs and where were at...

We have overpaid.. and yes verbs footy players earn alot.. but not 20 times the national wage average.....

Theyre just footy players....

Just footy players.. they dont even have a job if it is not for us....

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It actually only went for about 90 minutes though, didn't it?

And you hope to achieve what exactly by coming on the internet abusing people left, right and centre?

Why don't you try something constructive like petitioning the AFL to reduce the clubs' salary caps, or to tighten the extra payments which are made to players? Or a petition to have a individual salary cap on what each one player could get paid. If it worries you so much, why not do something positive instead of coming on here bleating, name calling and mouth off like a know-it-all?

Synbad when he signed his contract he was the best footy player on the planet. A million dollars is peanuts to what other elite sportsman make. There was no doubt Jack should have pushed for a 3 year deal, you'll get no argument from me there.
Good to see you back posting Synbad, I was getting bored arguing with your desciples.

Why dont you go see a therapist???

And The Game... Kouta was never worth 1/5th of what everyopne else at the club was on.. because if you lined up against the bottom 1/5th of the team he would get slaughtered...

Does he care that Lappin played for sweet FA for the last three years because he and his mates were eating up all of the salary cap???

Its a team game.. if he wants his own a million a year he can go get a US golf card and play the US circuit....

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I rest my case.

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Fair point Synbad when you put it that way.
That was a bad time for keeping players from memory though. Princes Park would have been burned down if we let Port poach him.

I remember being angry at Jezza when he shot off to St Kilda.

And he also asked for a pay increase when he found out what Fitzpatrick was on.

This debate is as old as the hills.

This is an old bug-bear of mine.

It is obscene that footballers get paid so much money (top-liners, anyway). But don't get me started on O/S athletes!

Synbad, verbs...do us all a favour and ignore each others posts, or you'll both get warnings.

The Game.. Koiuta was never going anywhere.. he sucked us dry and we lost a game of poker to an amateur....

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In context to international overseas markets Kouta in 2000 was worth way more than a million dollars per year. He was more than worth it on the form he was displaying. If he was in the NFL equivalent he'd get way, way more. Darren Bennett was getting that much for punting a ball 4-5 times a game for the San Diego Chargers. In the context of an Australian sporting climate, with our population, the market forces are different, which meant, well, we probably couldn't have afforded to pay it, given the market, finances and the contsraints of our salary cap. With the terrific side we had a few years ago I can see how we breached the cap. So I can see in that context that Kouta was paid too much. Maybe we need a bigger cap but then the rich would prosper and other clubs would go broke.

old news, its in the past - and to be frank is NOT the reason Carlton are in trouble now.... despite what is said, a factor perhaps but not the reason, the hawks are perceived to be progressing despite having a massive contract with Crawford, if you do everything else right, the impact is minimised.

unfortunately we have so many problems that this one keeps coming up - and like I said it is the least of our concerns. it is in the past and we have no control of it, lets focus on what we can control and get those things right

Any names with the "high"draftees,Surrey?

It's his impeccable source, DOA.

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'high' would have to be either Tex, Livo, Russell. Now the highest of these three is Tex, so is that who you are referring to Surrey?

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Andy never talks footy to me !

That's a common trait in most footy players.

They are surrounded by football 24/7 and when it comes to being social with others, they don't want to talk about it.

Could be different with some, but from what I can gather most of them don't.

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The problem with what you state is that after 1999 we failed to move players on with value and bring in some new talent to assist us in the later years.. We squandered some of our top tipck or gave them away for poor trades we signed on some ... note some players to contracts too long that could hurt us when the clubs fortues fell and the list in 2003 was made up of either near retiring seniors or young kids who hadnt prgressed to where we wanted them to ... Only in 2006 will we start seeing players fill that middle point.

Kouta was unlucky and its just a shame that the hoghest payed player in AFL played little footy for 3 years and neva came back to the form of what we knew but again the contract was too long especially on that high salary.

Time will show Campo to be burning up the grass at AFL grounds wearing Red & Black enjoying JJ's & MJ's hard work hmmm glad to see he will be of the same value as he was at the Blues leaving the hard work to others lol

And lappin well i really do hope he stays if he dosnt good luck to him but my preference is for him to remain at the Blues

I think surreyblue is talking about future high draftees who are rumoured to have said to people inside Carlton that they dont wish to be drafted by us.

I heard Lucy, that Queensland defender, had somehow passed this on to Carlton to try to make sure we don't draft him. Pretty sure the rules say he can't do it, and we can draft him regardless, but that was my reading of Surreyblue's post.