Well said.

So Slobbo is questioning MM but at the same time he feels we should role out the red carpet for James Turd. Maybe Mick should keep his feelings to himself for the good of the game but for FFS what Essendon* have done to the AFL will have long lasting negative effects. What a flower head he is.

By the way I strongly agree with MM the majority of games are crap.

Are you for REAL?? No picture of Hinkley and his players in this post?? Loses credibility without the pic, Cret.

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And the games that aren't crap end up influenced by crap umpiring decisions.

"Crowds are up, ratings are up...."

Wait, what?

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yes i know moshe (25), sometimes I lose a bit of focus and concentration when battling the Great Mr S.

Mr S is a fierce combatant with level 4 defenses, elite primary attack sequences, level 7 underground tactics, and cunning political devices designed to deflect, distract and utterly decimate the enemy....

We need to be on our toes in the coming months....

....these are difficult and troubling times moshe (25)

One of these two is thinking "what the hell have you done to my list?"

perhaps both are

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What a pathetic article.

Clearly Robbo has beef with Malthouse.

I suggest Robbo get off his fat a ss, put out his 50th dart of the day and head down to Visy park and see how and why this team has struggled this year.

What he will learn is....
Touhy, Walker, Hendo and Murph are playing hurt. All require surgery.

Judd, Carrazzo, Kruezer and Curnow have missed a huge chunk of the season.

We had a number of players start the season under done.

Under Mick we've seen Gibbs, simmo, white, Rowe, Yarran, Casboult, ellard, Everett and Buckley play their best football

Mick has got games into Docherty, Graham, Menzel, Cripps, Buckley and now Johnson.

There is plenty more improvement in this side. The rebuild has begun. And Mick is the right man for the job.

Those calling for Mick to be replaced, I ask who is better that you would replace him with?

There isn't that much improvement left in this side. Granted I don't think we are a bottom 4 side when everyone is up and running but this list peaked in 2011 and it's taken far too long for the club to actually appreciate that. Mick has got 3 quarters into Graham that's not games.

Wow Ellard has played his best footy. That just shows us where we are. Players like Ellard won't get us anywhere.

Don't care that Carrazzo or any older players have missed footy. They're not the future. Learn to live without them.

This list is old and stale.

Load up on picks. And go to the draft.

Ratten won 59 games, lost 56 and drew one.
Malthouse’s record is 16 wins and 21 losses.

Ratten took over a deplorable list after Pagan's reign. We were a mess and he has still finished with a positive record. Quite surprised.

The other stat, 16 wins and 21 losses and costing how much a season for a losing record?

So we got a guy at the club, getting paid a fortune, that isn't excited by the game or enjoy's the game. He basically sounds like a normal employee that hates his job and wouldn't be working there if he wasn't get paid well or had no where else to go. Which basically means he is just going through the motions, not going the extra mile.

For me, l have been in jobs l have hated, done what was required to get paid, but never put in extra. I have work in jobs l have enjoyed the job and colleagues, worked longer hours without extra pay to ensure a peice of a project was delivered early and of higher quality. Maybe this is the big part of the club, hard to be enthusiastic about a game that you hate or don't want to watch.

As a spokes person for the AFL, a leader of the club, he has pretty much said he is here for the money now. He mentioned he is here for winning, but we need to rebuild the list. We won't win a flag anytime soon. That is pretty good for membership too, come on join the club, pay my salary, but l wouldn't watch it. Complete Idiot

He is only here for the money
He is an old fashioned coach.
He cannot coach in the current era. Needs the rules of the game changed back to his coaching style.
He is a worse win / loss record than ratten, with a decent list.

Come on players, go out there, play your guts out, the game is shizen now and l wouldn't watch if l wasn't paid a million a season, but come on, pay my pension. And l could never coach against my boys collingwood unless l was paid a million a year.

If Malthouse has any integrity, this will be his final season.

Anyone that is defending this guy is a flog. Yes Ratten had to go, but so does this guy with a proper interview process please!!

Ratten is part to blame for this mess.

He did not develop.

He didn't know how to.

He had poor man management skills.

Yes our recruiting has been horrible but I also blame the lack of development under rattans reign that has seen many players come and gone.

Plus Ratten had a Chris Judd at his prime that carried this side.

Mick has committed himself to rebuilding this club and bringing it back up the ladder where it belongs.

Part of his plan is to bring someone along for the ride with him...... Watch this space!

Rebuilding where McLean (who has openly stated isn't enjoying football and wants nothing to do with it when he's done on the radio 2 weeks ago) gets a game over Graham?

Sounds like a plan.

Can I look away yet?

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Don't now if posted before.

Usually can't handle Smith at all, with the exception of a few needles in this article, this is one of his better efforts. Makes some good points

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/o ... 7c68b5ae6f

Just regarding Carlton 'peaking ' in 2011 ...

What year did Geelong peak? What about Hawthorn? When did they peak? You see, if Carlton peaked in 2011 then they must have been building up to that peak. I'll assume the build began when Ratten took over, which is end of what ... 2007? So that's a four year build from the bottom of the table to a peak of 2011.

So once again, thinking about the Geelong side of the 2000s, when was their peak? And when did they start heading towards that peak? Was it four years prior? I note that Wikipedia (!) suggests the 2007 premiership had its genesis from 2000 (2000–2006: Premiership foundations).

Just wondering ...

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"In better news for Blues fans, Jarrad Waite was not named on the club's injury list."

No one able to concede that injuries are playing a role?
Henderson clearly injured
Walker carrying
Garlett ..off field injury
Kreuzer injured
Judd injured still getting back to match fitness
Thomas coming back from major injury. Slowly regaining fitness. Still below his high standard.
Scottland retired due to body issues
Carrazzo coming back from sequential injuries. Still not fit.
Docherty previous injuries reducing match fitness and form
Curnow injured
Bell injured
Buckley injured
Ellard injured
Cripps injured

There are some significant injuries there. The influence on our team structure is undeniable.
Lets judge when we have a fully fit team to put out on the field.
Now the caveat. Yes we are exposed for depth because of those injuries. Hawthorn being a good contrast, can still continue winning despite injuries. But no one here is pretending that we are at the reigning premiers standard, so lets not bemoan that we cant do what the hawks have done.
The point being, judging malthouse based on an injured list is not being fair. Yes we had high expectations at the start of the season, but not adjusting them based on the new information ie injuries is puerile . To blame a coach that is hardly responsible for our lack of depth is even more so . Dare i say it, but this constant criticism of a great coach that we are lucky to have , is the same type of reaction that our great leaders have displayed and got us into our current " situation"

If they're injured don't play them. Lachie playing injured yet Waite gets omitted? Any mid that is playing injured - play Graham, Holman and could've played Cachia before he got injured in the 2s last week.

Why are we playing injured players? We are no chance for finals so what is the purpose?

Have you looked at our draw for the first 11 weeks this year? Dream draw. No travel until the lions, didnt play many top teams. Didnt play cats til round 12, hawks til round 13, havent played the dockers, swans yet. havent traveled to Perth yet.

Are you saying the first 4 losses were due to injuries?
the Losses to the demons and the lions who were on the bottom at the time?

An of course every team has injuries - when we played the Hawks, we played a depleted team.

ratten had injuries in 2012 but still managed 11 wins. Mick had very few injuries in 2013 and managed 11 wins. Same list essentially

One needs to explain why Port rocketed up the ladder, and the Blues went backwards when Hinkley and Malthouse took over their respective teams at the end of 2012

Was there a difference in the quality of the teams at the end of 2012?

CHAMPION DATA 2012

CARLTON
Defenders 14th
Midfield/Rucks 3rd
Forwards 2nd
LIST QUALITY 9th

PORT ADELAIDE
Defenders 18th
Midfield/Rucks 12th
Forwards 17th
LIST QUALITY 17th

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our list is aenemic

i can see the process and the signs of improvement

need a talent transfusion

Mick aint going anywhere

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I am saying that we have depth problems. And because of this, our significant injuries have exposed this.
But equally , for any side to win the premiership, they need a good run with injuries.
I firmly believe that we are still a fringe eight side, but injuries and a combination of bad luck and brain fade, has let us slip below where we could be.
I have given up on this seasons finals aspirations, but i am not a "no hoper". With some smart trading at year end we can bring in some more leadership. Hopefully with a fit list we will regain the form of our players that this year have been below par. Eg henderson, thomas, kreuzer, garlett, walker etc. that will make a big difference