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He basically said Pagan was a factor in his decision. The only scum bag at Carlton is our coach and as soon as we get rid of this cancer the better.


if the "scum bag" has only one achievement at carlton and that is to see self-serving wankers like campo leave the club then i reckon pagan will have served us well!!

i wonder how many times that carlton "great" midfielder campo made all-australian?? ... yet i wonder how much more he earned than guys who did??

i really hope he gets to the scum (and i'm loving how my scum mates are hoping he DOESN'T!!!! .... hear that campo??) ... and i for one will be making sure my vocal chords will have had plenty of rest in the lead up to the game!!!

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He basically said Pagan was a factor in his decision. The only scum bag at Carlton is our coach and as soon as we get rid of this cancer the better.


Oh dear lord.

So who would you rather have coaching us?

Would any other coach in the league have the balls to take on a challenge as big as ours?
Preferably someone who doesn't keep losing the players as Pagan keeps doing. That's the reason why we are in shit. If Campo can't work with him, and he's probably not the only one, then he should go somewhere where he's happy. In the same position, wouldn't we all? We asked players to be loyal, but sometimes the most disloyal is the club. They get rid of you at the drop of a hat when it suits them. Be very few here who would know what the real situation is with Campo, so it's hard to have an informed opinion on the subject.


See, it all comes back to willing to put in the hard yards to get the best out of yourself. It would appear that Campo was put out of place when Denis arrived because Campo wasn't used to his methods and still isn't.

It's no secret that Denis is a taskmaster when it comes to coaching, but this is what the club needs given the situation we are in.

Like I said, there is no other coach in the AFL who would be willing to take on the challenges that we face at the moment. Most of them would have given up after 1, maybe 2, seasons.

Actually I think the only coach, apart from Denis, who would take on the challenge would be Leigh Matthews, but he would be an impossible target to acquire so we have the next best.

I'm glad Denis is being an absolute hardarse to these no good bludgers who aren't willing to adapt to his methods. For years now these pricks have been sucking the club dry and just drifting along. Now that someone has come along to put them into line, they have a sook about it.

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I'd be interested to know how the younger players view Pagan. Obviously the older players don't like the way in which he acts, but do the younger players also think this way, or do they infact like Denis?

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Justice would be if Camporeale plays 2 years for The Scum and we finish ahead of them both years.


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How funny would it be if 30,000 Blues members showed up at the MCG (in full kit) for the Saints v Dons game on Sat 15 July, and boooed everytime either one of them touched the ball.

Champagne football :twisted:


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How funny would it be if 30,000 Blues members showed up at the MCG (in full kit) for the Saints v Dons game on Sat 15 July, and boooed everytime either one of them touched the ball.

Champagne football :twisted:


Let's DOOOOOO IIIIIIIIIIITTT!!!!!!!!!!

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phoenix johnson wrote:
jim wrote:
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He basically said Pagan was a factor in his decision. The only scum bag at Carlton is our coach and as soon as we get rid of this cancer the better.


Oh dear lord.

So who would you rather have coaching us?

Would any other coach in the league have the balls to take on a challenge as big as ours?
Preferably someone who doesn't keep losing the players as Pagan keeps doing. That's the reason why we are in shit. If Campo can't work with him, and he's probably not the only one, then he should go somewhere where he's happy. In the same position, wouldn't we all? We asked players to be loyal, but sometimes the most disloyal is the club. They get rid of you at the drop of a hat when it suits them. Be very few here who would know what the real situation is with Campo, so it's hard to have an informed opinion on the subject.


See, it all comes back to willing to put in the hard yards to get the best out of yourself. It would appear that Campo was put out of place when Denis arrived because Campo wasn't used to his methods and still isn't.

It's no secret that Denis is a taskmaster when it comes to coaching, but this is what the club needs given the situation we are in.

Like I said, there is no other coach in the AFL who would be willing to take on the challenges that we face at the moment. Most of them would have given up after 1, maybe 2, seasons.

Actually I think the only coach, apart from Denis, who would take on the challenge would be Leigh Matthews, but he would be an impossible target to acquire so we have the next best.

I'm glad Denis is being an absolute hardarse to these no good bludgers who aren't willing to adapt to his methods. For years now these pricks have been sucking the club dry and just drifting along. Now that someone has come along to put them into line, they have a sook about it.
Not if you keep losing them. Gets you no-where. you want someone with good man-management skills that gets the best out of the players, not finish 15th and last in 2 of your 3 years where the players are disineterested and lack direction. If he didn't keep losing them then they wouldn't be no-good bludgers because the players would play for him.


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i went to a Jack Welch (former ceo of GE) talk recently and he was talking about when a new CEO comes in or when companies merge there are always people who resist the change - and as he said, some of these resisters are very talented people who you want to keep.But in all cases he stressed you must get rid of them and quickly. It will not be their talent that shines through but rather their willingness to continue to resist and poison the rest of the company. It is better for the company and the individual if they part company quickly. It usually leads to them being happy in a new environment and the company geting a united team.

This very much applies to Carlton. Pagan effectively the ceo of the team comes in and wants to change the way the team plays. If there are resisters they must go. CLEARLY Campo is one of those talented players who was a resister. So I am glad he is going - however the CFC needs to seriously look at who is still resisting. The club is at fault for taking so long to figure out those who want to play for Pagan and those who don't (regardless of contracts - trades should have been sought). As others have said you either stick with Pagan and get rid of the resisters or you get rid of Pagan and bring in someone new. I for one think Pagan is the ideal coach to train a young team. That is where he succeeds because he teaches from young the discipline to play.

Campo I really do wish you the best at your new club, but I am not sorry to see you go. Campo I am glad you made the decision to leave - I am only sorry that CFC did not do force this move earlier. AND if there are still players that continue to resist, please for the sake of the club.Get rid of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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jim wrote:
phoenix johnson wrote:
jim wrote:
phoenix johnson wrote:
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He basically said Pagan was a factor in his decision. The only scum bag at Carlton is our coach and as soon as we get rid of this cancer the better.


Oh dear lord.

So who would you rather have coaching us?

Would any other coach in the league have the balls to take on a challenge as big as ours?
Preferably someone who doesn't keep losing the players as Pagan keeps doing. That's the reason why we are in shit. If Campo can't work with him, and he's probably not the only one, then he should go somewhere where he's happy. In the same position, wouldn't we all? We asked players to be loyal, but sometimes the most disloyal is the club. They get rid of you at the drop of a hat when it suits them. Be very few here who would know what the real situation is with Campo, so it's hard to have an informed opinion on the subject.


See, it all comes back to willing to put in the hard yards to get the best out of yourself. It would appear that Campo was put out of place when Denis arrived because Campo wasn't used to his methods and still isn't.

It's no secret that Denis is a taskmaster when it comes to coaching, but this is what the club needs given the situation we are in.

Like I said, there is no other coach in the AFL who would be willing to take on the challenges that we face at the moment. Most of them would have given up after 1, maybe 2, seasons.

Actually I think the only coach, apart from Denis, who would take on the challenge would be Leigh Matthews, but he would be an impossible target to acquire so we have the next best.

I'm glad Denis is being an absolute hardarse to these no good bludgers who aren't willing to adapt to his methods. For years now these pricks have been sucking the club dry and just drifting along. Now that someone has come along to put them into line, they have a sook about it.
Not if you keep losing them. Gets you no-where. you want someone with good man-management skills that gets the best out of the players, not finish 15th and last in 2 of your 3 years where the players are disineterested and lack direction. If he didn't keep losing them then they wouldn't be no-good bludgers because the players would play for him.


Hey jimmy, sometimes it's in the players character and there is only
so much a coach can do. Don't tell me you're that blind that you
can't see Campo's true character in that article? It's full of lies, hypocrisy
and half truths. Just compare him to blokes like Buckley, Voss, Brown and
other great players who have had contract negotiations and you can see
that there is a world of difference.

I don't mind that he is leaving, it's his choice, but the most disappointing
thing was that he couldn't say anything positive about the club, a club that has looked after him extremely well over such a long period of time.

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Bottom line "respect" is the key word here. Would Jimmy Hird or Nathan Buckley leave their respective clubs with the ball under their arm and say "im not coming back because I dont like loosing it makes me sad"? NO THEY RESPECT THEMSELVES THEIR TEAMMATES AND THE JUMPER CANCEROLE RESPECTS NUFFIN AND THAT INCLUDES HIMSELF.

The guy is a soft cock unwilling to put in the miles and wants instant onfield success and gains no satisfaction from sayin hey i helped teach young Carrots etc. Cant see that behaviour coming from true clubmen and captains at other teams.

Secondly he is full of crap, yeppers Cancer your gonna add so much to the Bombers next year that your very presence will allow them instantaneous onfield success. (wanka) Bombers position in the ladder is truely not that much different to ours. Hmm Sheedy is Parkinish and prolly so but he is a task master and he wont put up with your bullshit for any longer than Pagan did.

Cancer I hope no one picks up your sorry arse and you end up playing for a local surburban football club thereby reaching the lofty status that you so so much wish for as the club legend.

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jim wrote:
phoenix johnson wrote:
jim wrote:
phoenix johnson wrote:
TheGame wrote:
He basically said Pagan was a factor in his decision. The only scum bag at Carlton is our coach and as soon as we get rid of this cancer the better.


Oh dear lord.

So who would you rather have coaching us?

Would any other coach in the league have the balls to take on a challenge as big as ours?
Preferably someone who doesn't keep losing the players as Pagan keeps doing. That's the reason why we are in shit. If Campo can't work with him, and he's probably not the only one, then he should go somewhere where he's happy. In the same position, wouldn't we all? We asked players to be loyal, but sometimes the most disloyal is the club. They get rid of you at the drop of a hat when it suits them. Be very few here who would know what the real situation is with Campo, so it's hard to have an informed opinion on the subject.


See, it all comes back to willing to put in the hard yards to get the best out of yourself. It would appear that Campo was put out of place when Denis arrived because Campo wasn't used to his methods and still isn't.

It's no secret that Denis is a taskmaster when it comes to coaching, but this is what the club needs given the situation we are in.

Like I said, there is no other coach in the AFL who would be willing to take on the challenges that we face at the moment. Most of them would have given up after 1, maybe 2, seasons.

Actually I think the only coach, apart from Denis, who would take on the challenge would be Leigh Matthews, but he would be an impossible target to acquire so we have the next best.

I'm glad Denis is being an absolute hardarse to these no good bludgers who aren't willing to adapt to his methods. For years now these pricks have been sucking the club dry and just drifting along. Now that someone has come along to put them into line, they have a sook about it.
Not if you keep losing them. Gets you no-where. you want someone with good man-management skills that gets the best out of the players, not finish 15th and last in 2 of your 3 years where the players are disineterested and lack direction. If he didn't keep losing them then they wouldn't be no-good bludgers because the players would play for him.


Terry Wallace wanted the job and I think you guys underestimate the job he did with the Bulldog's. They had an average list and he made them serious contender's....so there is at least 1 other guy who was willing to take on the challenge.

That doesn't mean I think he would have been a better option than Denis

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Seems the "Cancereale" people have shown their true colours since Camporeale has shown his.

Deary me...talk about having your cake and eating it too!

Are you upset he's gone?

Or upset he's glad he's gone?

Make up your schizo minds please...and then post.


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Does it say whether or not he was paid for that interview? 8)


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Verbs go back to your TBV days I have always said that he was a gutless whinnin one

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Last year?

The year before?

Get over yourself...you are SOOOO important!

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Pot callin the kettle black Verbs?

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Hahahaha...yeah...MEMEMEMEMEMEEEEEEEEEEE!

GET

OVER

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YOU....ARE...NOT...IMPORTANT!

just becuase you post on the internet!

I know I'm not some "all knowing" ... "this Carlton player is a crap greedy piece of shit" ... whatever.

Sure I have an opinion, but I know it means jack all, but at then end of the day I have learnt a lot about football supporting cancer.


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If we gave Cancer 400k he would have stayed.
We only offered him first 350k then it was 300k...
Thats pittance to a man like Cancer...

But he got to captain us.. he was set up for life by us.. paid millions of dollars.. had Ratten Brown Williams dishing out the ball to him when he was at his best...

Couldnt step up when they were gone.. complained about everything excpet the money he received.

Will never be remembered as a club champion .. just a parasite that he was.

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