Limestone your points are well made and I agree. My comments over the past few years have been consistent. We need to be trading etc to try and have 4-5 picks inside the Top 30. That is consistently where the best players come from. Good sides trade up to get these picks.

In a perfect world (and that should always be our target) over the next 3-4 years we should be looking at getting as many picks inside 30. 2-3 picks in the rest of the draft and a minimum 3 picks in the rookie draft plus trying to get deals like Docherty.

Now it's not easy but we haven't even got close to this in the past few years but our list is now the worst in terms of young talent coming through and the tough decisions need to be made.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Agreed
Let's max this draft
I'd be getting rid of Gibbs, Walker, Garlett, Robbo and Levi if worth anything

Casboult can aim for the Whitten Oval if he likes but someone should tell him he'll either miss to the right and hit Ballarat Road or the left and end up in Yarraville.

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Could end up anywhere from Kensington to Sunshine

I agree with the retirees and those to cut but the trade option will only work if we get someone better than we are trading out. And that won't happen with trading the above players for picks.
Great if we want to spend the next 5 years on the bottom of the ladder. The aim is to build on what we've got.
Not your best post.

Seems like a mutual agreement to wait.

That's why I said put them on the table to see what we can get. In the end I think we will be lucky to trade even 1 of them.

Maybe we have to package 2 players for a kid or a good pick. Not easy but we have to explore ALL options.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

..our best trade bait will still be krooz, he however does not want to go.. ..we'd have to force him out, and that wouldn't go down well..

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Supporters are crying out for Mick to play the kids...... WHICH KIDS I ASK?

Other than Graham, no other blues listed player has impressed at VFL level. The likes of Holman and Giles are not ready. Giles has been ok at VFL level. Blaine Johnson..... don't hold your breath

Graham is a ball magnet but is a bit slow and needs to add a bit flare and work on his offensive side to his game.

Cripps is a couple of weeks away but the kid cannot run out a game and will be a liability on the field.

Tom Temay..... refer to Blaine Johnson comments.

We know Matty Watson isn't up to it - Kane Lucas will be cut come seasons end.

Tom Bell can't kick.

Mcinnes i hope never plays in the navy blue jumper again.

Id seriously look at swapping Kruezer to GWS for two of their kids. Preferable two mids. The reason why i suggest this is i think the club needs to load up on talls this years draft but we need to address mid field depth. I know GWS were mighty keen on Kruezer last year but the board rejected a move on that.

Kruezer has some value and i think we can try manufacture a solution where we get two GWS kids in for Kruezer and load up on 4 tall kids in this years draft.

Im not to sure about him not wanting to go. I think you will find the board rejected a move that would have seen Kruezer in a GWS jumper this year

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..krooz would be chased by a few clubs for sure, but he love the club and won't go..

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Go back to the recruitment threads over the past couple of years. 90% of TC's posters have been pushing the midfielders barrow.
It's a bit rich to complain about it now.

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fresh start for Krooze but it won't happen....... or maybe it will with a new president and revised board this time around

..actually, we have ignored using our first round pick on kids as well as Kpp, that is why we are in this mess.. ..we haven't used a first round pick on a pure mid or a kpp since '05..

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..not gonna happen unless we give an almighty push, not a good move..

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What's the point of 'building on what we've got' when what we have got is negligible? Don't fall into the old trap of talking ourselves into the idea of perpetual mediocrity when the ultimate aim is to win flags. Our players will get exactly what they are worth apart from the fact that the new players will be younger and will have a chance of developing together as a team.

If we were to trade three of those five players mentioned for exactly (subjectively speaking) what they were worth in terms of draft picks, then I think we'd be on the right track. Of course, because some people are prone to fantasy land type trade suggestions, that attracts the cynics who are into magical thinking of the opposite kind.

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Nice in theory but why would GWS do it?

Kruezer is injury prone and they have Mumford, Giles, Phillips, Patton & Boyd.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

The board rejected a move last year in fear off another Josh Kennedy scenario and us ending up with egg on our face.

..mummy is older and more injury prone, Giles is a spud.. ..patton and Boyd are not first rucks at all, Phillips I don't know of..

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