No doubt TD will bring at least some personaility to our colourless coaching group. The players will like him and respond to him. Unfortunately he isn't the guy who is going to challenge DP in any way. I don't think he is likely to be a strategic thinker or someone to bring in new ideas. He will work well with young players. I like TD, a worry that he has been scaked twice recently. But we badly need someone who has a modern strategic view of the game. Happy to have TD but wish we had someone else coming in to replace Libba and provide strength to balance DPs weaknesses (ie match day tactics and strategies).

Now all we need to get Peter Dean back on board and we might start making some headway.

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I think Peter Dean has signed on as a TAC coach. Murray Bushrangers? Hopefully he is on time for training sessions...not one of his strong points!


Yep, confirmed appointment:
http://taccup.footballvictoria.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=98004

Pretty happy with the club signing both TD and Dempsey.

Let's hope he can help out Fevola and get some improvement out of him.

I think he will be a good mentor for the younger blokes as well.

Good work, Carlton.

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Gary Dempsey is a magnificent get, well done CFC.
Terry Daniher is an interesting one but I'm not unhappy at all. I think Malthouse/Mini-Bus are the problem, so he'll probably be very good for us.

All in all, finally some mentors for our youngies.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 22,00.html

Thanks for the scoop 79V.




I'm a little bit unsure about this, but if Mr C is happy to have TD at the club, then I guess I'm happy too.

At least some areas that "we" see as being deficient are being addressed, and that is a big positive. Dempsey could play the game, there's no doubt about that, and having him on board should be a step in the right direction.

Let's give these guys a go, let's face it at this stage it's all about player development, we're not bringing in a fresh idea or two because we're on the cusp of winning a flag.

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I'm pretty happy with both these appointments. Now we need some ruckmen for Dempsey to coach...

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More of the same.
Its like Dads Army down at Carlton.

Why dont we get some fresh ideas?
Young, enthusiastic, recently retired players who can relate to a young list.
Get some people with left field ideas who think outside the square, have computer literacy.

No, we place it safe and get in annual rejects who wont challenge the incumbents or their philosophies.
The football department should have been picked up by the balls and shaken up.
Instead we again took the safe option and have reinforced a questionable structure.
I'm sure TD and Dempsey are fantastic blokes but we need tomorrows people, not yesterdays.

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I don't know much about Daniher as a coach but if we want someone to help our ruckmen I don't think we could have done too much better than Dempsey whether he knows how to reboot or not...

Besides - computer literacy's over-rated - just read some of these threads...

True.
Perhaps we should bring back Ron Barrassi football boots and get Vauxhall as our car sponsor.

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I'm not unhappy about Daniher and Dempsey but I take your point about being yesterdays people however we seem to have trouble attratcing both players and asst coaches...I think we are viewed as yesterdays club and that things wont change until more senior figures like Sticks etc move on .

We didnt seem to be in the running for Shaun Rehn and happy to endorse Elshaugh and Libba for another season.....Peter Dean should perhaps should have been offered a asst coaching position yet chose to go the bushrangers.....Ratten and Bradley have been excommunicated...SOS has gone elswhere, Carey to Collingwood...todays people dont want to know us....maybe Malouf didnt have many candidates to choose from..

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Unfortunately Elwood I'd say money is the issue.
We dont attract the topliners because we wont pay for them.
Carey didnt go to Collingwood because they have a better future, you can bet he went for an offer he couldnt refuse.

We are portaying ourselves as Yesterdays people because we are implementing yesterdays philosophies for yesterdays money.
Its all good and well to be tight fisted but sometimes you have to give a little to get a lot in return.

We are in "holding pattern" and it shits me to tears.
We are being controlled by accountants who cant see past a bank statement.
We need risk takers, not to control the club but to offer alternative opinions.

The 15 other AFL clubs are progressing and evolving their football departments continually.
Every day we consolidate and sit still we go backwards.

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Unless, as Swan refereed to in an interview yesterday, we really are just working our arses off to stay afloat as a club and not run to the AFL for handouts to survive.

I think many of us (not implying you by the way BV) will never quite realize just how close this club was to insolvency and I think we are as broke as any club in the league, I'm talking Fitzroy kind of broke! Until we are past the danger stage I think 80% (a figure I have plucked from my nether regions) decisions are actually based on money.

Maybe soon we will have risen out of the shit we've put ourselves in enough to start progressing!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Well, my take on it is that TD can't do as bad a job as has been done lately.

I'm prepared to give him a chance, before convicting him on "past misdeeds".

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IN: T.Daniher
OUT: W.Carey

IN:Dempsey (I'm assuming he's part-time)
OUT:Madden

Would you call this a nil all draw

Pagan would have had dealings with Daniher at Ess in 92 wouldn't he? Maybe there is more method to his appointment than it seems - Denis might really see something in the guy that could help the club. I was a bit iffy at first but there's a good chance he'll be great for a bloke like Fev, as he was for Tarrant. An approachable balance to Pagan's strict approach. Time will tell.

I'm stoked we've got an experienced ruckman on the coaching panel. Agree it would have been good to get a younger guy but still, Dempsey is going to help blokes like Barnaby French, Bryan,& DeLuca no end.

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BV, Danny...if we are Fitzroy type broke and in the hands of no risk taking accountants ..where is the club heading?
I remember reading an article about Brian Cook and he said that both he and Frank Costa had to really work overtime with banks etc to get some breathing space and cash flow and reorganise their debts ...do we need a Brian Cook type administrator who has been through this before?

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And that is where the crucial decisions are made.
We came to a fork in the road and made a decision to take the wrong route IMHO.

The way to improve our lot is to win games of footy.
Winning football games increases our financial position more than anything else.

After winning the WC, Carlton had an increase in-

*Its corporate client base
*Record membership of 33534
*Increased spectator numbers by 18%
*Increase FTA viewers of home games by 75%
Increasing website visitors by 20%

All this by the halfway mark of the season.

With our onfield fortunes, the numbers fell away in the second half of the year.

What does that tell you?
It tells me the club significantly benefits financially when the team is successful.
Thats why money should be spent in the football department to get the best people to create a winning, successful environment.

Sponsors want to be involved with progressive, exciting organisations which are going somewhere.
Not regressive organisations who have put the shutters up.

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Dempsey played in a time where rucking was an artform. I think he'll be great for us.

TD - good too.... some clever acquisition, and probably putting the other assistants on notice....

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