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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 7:53 pm 
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moshe25 wrote:
Rocco Iguana wrote:
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Right at the moment Ratts coaching record at Carlton is better than Malthouse coaching record at Carlton
Until such time malthouse's? Malvern - Malthouses record at Carlton is better than Rattens the decision to replace Ratten with Malthouse was flawed
It is that simple

By what measures exactly do you get that Ratten's record is better than Malthouse's?


A good measurement is surely finals success.

On that, I have Malthouse already drawn level with Ratten after just one season (one win each)


with a little help from our friends at Essendon***

????????????

How did they help us? I don't follow you.


Poor documentation got them kicked out . We then took their spot. A little help.

Anyway as we are told. Forget about the Richmond game. Remember the Sydney one. Worst interstate final since Brisbane in 99'.
Embarrassing. We always put up a fight when we played interstate finals under Ratts.
Last season was no match.


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Poor documentation got them kicked out . We then took their spot. A little help.

Anyway as we are told. Forget about the Richmond game. Remember the Sydney one. Worst interstate final since Brisbane in 99'.
Embarrassing. We always put up a fight when we played interstate finals under Ratts.
Last season was no match.


You think Essendon* got kicked out because of poor documentation?

I think they got kicked out because they were cheating, lying, doped up flower scum.

Considering how poorly they're performing without the drugs perhaps it's worth considering that last year they should never have been near the finals.

Which means we were the eighth best legitimate team in the competitionand entirely deserved our position in the finals.

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GWS wrote:
club29 wrote:
Poor documentation got them kicked out . We then took their spot. A little help.

Anyway as we are told. Forget about the Richmond game. Remember the Sydney one. Worst interstate final since Brisbane in 99'.
Embarrassing. We always put up a fight when we played interstate finals under Ratts.
Last season was no match.


You think Essendon** got kicked out because of poor documentation?

I think they got kicked out because they were cheating, lying, doped up flower scum.

Considering how poorly they're performing without the drugs perhaps it's worth considering that last year they should never have been near the finals.

Which means we were the eighth best legitimate team in the competitionand entirely deserved our position in the finals.


I don't really think that but i am going by the rules on this one.

They will get thrown out this year because they are cheating, lying, doped up flower scum.
Last year for poor paperwork.


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club29 wrote:
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club29 wrote:
Poor documentation got them kicked out . We then took their spot. A little help.

Anyway as we are told. Forget about the Richmond game. Remember the Sydney one. Worst interstate final since Brisbane in 99'.
Embarrassing. We always put up a fight when we played interstate finals under Ratts.
Last season was no match.


You think Essendon*** got kicked out because of poor documentation?

I think they got kicked out because they were cheating, lying, doped up flower scum.

Considering how poorly they're performing without the drugs perhaps it's worth considering that last year they should never have been near the finals.

Which means we were the eighth best legitimate team in the competitionand entirely deserved our position in the finals.


I don't really think that but i am going by the rules on this one.

They will get thrown out this year because they are cheating, lying, doped up flower scum.
Last year for poor paperwork.

:lol: You're funny....

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 9:32 am 
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Serious daddy issues.

who is your daddy then???

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2014 9:34 am 
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moshe25 wrote:
club29 wrote:
GWS wrote:
club29 wrote:
Poor documentation got them kicked out . We then took their spot. A little help.

Anyway as we are told. Forget about the Richmond game. Remember the Sydney one. Worst interstate final since Brisbane in 99'.
Embarrassing. We always put up a fight when we played interstate finals under Ratts.
Last season was no match.


You think Essendon**** got kicked out because of poor documentation?

I think they got kicked out because they were cheating, lying, doped up flower scum.

Considering how poorly they're performing without the drugs perhaps it's worth considering that last year they should never have been near the finals.

Which means we were the eighth best legitimate team in the competitionand entirely deserved our position in the finals.


I don't really think that but i am going by the rules on this one.

They will get thrown out this year because they are cheating, lying, doped up flower scum.
Last year for poor paperwork.

:lol: You're funny....


Thanks mate. :lol: Just find the Mick equalled Ratts in one season argument a little strange. There are a million ways that the situations are completely different.
Essendon* being thrown out and gifting us a spot in the finals is another can of worms .............and I know the carl lewis / ben Johnson argument but that doesn't come into play.......yet.
Essendon* did us favour by being off their heads on AOD ,TB4 and Mexican marching powder beating Adelaide in round 1 denying them 4 pts that would have put them in the finals ahead of us once the bombers got chucked out for being off their heads on AOD and TB4 and Mexican marching powder..

Worst interstate final since 99'.


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Essendon** did us favour by being off their heads on AOD ,TB4 and Mexican marching powder beating Adelaide in round 1 denying them 4 pts that would have put them in the finals ahead of us once the bombers got chucked out for being off their heads on AOD and TB4 and Mexican marching powder..



They also beat us twice by being off their heads on AOD ,TB4 and Mexican marching powder :grin:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:23 am 
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club29 wrote:
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Hinkley got looked over many times.

Keoghs mate Brendon McCartney, the best coach he has ever seen, got a gig and is in his third year and it still doesn't look like finals. Ratts achieved it in his second year.

Crap thread.


Yes but Ratts left Mick a crap list


Mick loved the list. Didn't even bother changing it in his first year. Stars aligning and we get a flag according to Mick.


Mick had to say that. Didn't have any grounds to delist players due to list management/contract statuses.

Also couldn't afford to lose the players before he even started ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:33 am 
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Yazzamatazz wrote:
club29 wrote:
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Hinkley got looked over many times.

Keoghs mate Brendon McCartney, the best coach he has ever seen, got a gig and is in his third year and it still doesn't look like finals. Ratts achieved it in his second year.

Crap thread.


Yes but Ratts left Mick a crap list


Mick loved the list. Didn't even bother changing it in his first year. Stars aligning and we get a flag according to Mick.


Mick had to say that. Didn't have any grounds to delist players due to list management/contract statuses.

Also couldn't afford to lose the players before he even started ;)



I agree he had plenty of time to lose them after with his childish behaviour and nonsensical game plan. :donk:


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GWS wrote:
club29 wrote:
Poor documentation got them kicked out . We then took their spot. A little help.

Anyway as we are told. Forget about the Richmond game. Remember the Sydney one. Worst interstate final since Brisbane in 99'.
Embarrassing. We always put up a fight when we played interstate finals under Ratts.
Last season was no match.


You think Essendon** got kicked out because of poor documentation?

I think they got kicked out because they were cheating, lying, doped up flower scum.

Considering how poorly they're performing without the drugs perhaps it's worth considering that last year they should never have been near the finals.

Which means we were the eighth best legitimate team in the competitionand entirely deserved our position in the finals.


Agreed ... we were the best of an average lot in the middle tier of the comp. We beat everyone around us (Port x 2, Adelaide, North, Richmond, Brisbane and West Coast) during the year and scarped through to 11 wins. At no stage did we ever look like challenging the teams higher than us ... and it came back to bite us in a massive way against Sydney.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:59 am 
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We were at a similar spot last year and posters were saying "Give Mick 12 months and if we are at the same spot next year, we have every right to raise questions". Well here we are still making excuses :idea:


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Who are the players to transfuse into the team Surrey?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:49 pm 
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What Surrey says is true. There were people giving him 12 months. That time is up.


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Give him time... he'll become the next Bomber Thompson

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:17 pm 
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Lets get Nafan to the blues. Lets develop a transition plan where Micky can become Director of Coaching and Nafan can be senior coach.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:19 pm 
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Lets get Nafan to the blues. Lets develop a transition plan where Micky can become Director of Coaching and Nafan can be senior coach.


GENIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Clayman wrote:
Lets get Nafan to the blues. Lets develop a transition plan where Micky can become Director of Coaching and Nafan can be senior coach.



Why not

he got micky 1 flag

why not another.

he's to stubborn and resentful to understand the truth, our micky is.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:25 pm 
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club29 wrote:
What Surrey says is true. There were people giving him 12 months. That time is up.


..forget who the actual coach is, did you honestly think it would only be a single year turn around..?.. ..i'm thinking we won't be a top two team with this list, without at least three years of serious work on and off field as it pertains to the team, not talking entire club.. ..we are miles off it and even our 'slap it' worthy 2011 still showed we weren't close..

..crappest team we ever had a decade ago, and we never did the full rebuild, barely did half a rebuild.. ..ergo, years later we are heading back to where we started, without the opportunities to grow.. ..it's going to take a few years before ay hope we feel is genuine.. ..until then we're all just kidding ourselves..

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:58 pm 
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Still had a better list of players out there on the weekend than the opposition. Way better. Coach has to take the blame. He got out coached by a rookie.

Same with the Melbourne and Richmond games. Outcoached.

Why are we going soft on Mick? We need to take off the rose coloured glasses and be realists. The bloke is failing.


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